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marighost@piefed.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I don’t like to make fun of where people live, because everyone has different circumstances. But it is severely mind-boggling that people who do live in rural, less economically-inclined areas think that a narcissistic, city-slicking conman has their best interests in mind. This person may remain in that mobile home forever while Trump and his cadre of billionaires continue to siphon them for every penny, and that’s depressing.

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Rothe@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yes, but they both share fond memories of racism and other forms of bigotry.

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shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Before Trump went off on Obama and immigrants he was the East Coast Liberal™ these people loathed. I could maybe see younger folks being fooled, but FFS, did no one know what Trump was like in the 80s and 90s?! He was America’s laughing stock. The man released Trump, The Board Game and the entire country laughed our ass off.

Bloom Country, easily the finest snapshot of 80s America, ended in 1989 with Trump buying out the comic strip and firing all the characters, so unseriousness and ludicrous all we could do was laugh.

Anyway, if anyone wants to know what America was really like in the 80s, Bloom Country is readily available online. And here we are with the air traffic controllers, AGAIN!

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Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Depressing but not undeserved. These people have some less than altruistic reasons for electing the con man.

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- kelpie_returns@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  *Some of these people. Many have been outright deceived, and many others (people living in trailers, I mean) are and have long been fully opposed to all of this lunacy.
  
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  - Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Not some. All. We all got to live through his first term and the failed insurrection with the Jan 6ers. The fact they voted for him a third time is proof they didn’t care about any of that.
    
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    kelpie_returns@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    This assumes that we’re all receiving the same information about what all’s going on, which is very definitely not the case. Literally watch 5 minutes of fox news and compare what you hear to the actual events they’re contorting. The difference is basically immediate and painfully obvious. That is only one of a countless many arms in what is one of the most wide-spread and thoroughly controlled propaganda campaigns in history.
    
    We all lived through the first term, but some devious steps were taken to ensure that different groups were receiving very different coverage. This is getting harder for them to do now that the consequences of their lies are starting to outwiegh the lies themselves, but many of these people were and are still being fed bold-faced lies right along with the same kind of propaganda that literal cults deploy. The sort of mind ganes that are used in order to prevent their victims from ever individually coming to the conclusion that something is very fucking wrong. They are running near-every inch of an information ecosystem that traps their victims by making them completely repellent to the sane, effectively isolating most of them from the people that could otherwise help them see reason.
    
    Many of them understand whats actually happening and are going along because of the hate within them. But many others are being manipulated through well tested and well documented means, which are being deployed in a novel way (via these high control/high volume digital ecosystems) and on a scale that we have not yet had enough time to learn how to properly combat.
    
    They are basically breaking people down, isolating them, and driving them into a useful simulacrum of insanity, if not outright madness. It is a mistake to forget the shades of grey and the humanity that underlines every decision made, both among the perpetrators and the victims alike. If the goal is to do what’s right rather than punish anyone and everyone who wasn’t perfect to your standard, then these distinctions really and truly matter. Some of them need rehabilitation, and others need the full brunt of what these rotten choices should earn them. They’re just not a monolith.
    
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  - Jerkface@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’ve spent a lot of time in similar living situations and I agree. What I see most of about this intersection is fear. I had neighbors that didn’t trust Democrats and almost certainly voted for Trump, but they sure as hell didn’t trust him either.
    
    In their case, I believe they were looking for an out. The previous Democratic president didn’t help them at all, in their view. And Trump probably wouldn’t, either. I mean, really. What an absolute doorknob. But from their perspective, maybe getting things off the rails might get them in a better position overall. Low chance of that ever happening, but the only one they had.
    
    Again, this my impression of their perspective from living nextdoor to them for years.
    
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