I honestly wish Japan would split their genres a lil more. Shonen feels like such a default “anime” genre, and yeah most of it is just generic drivel. Then something actually wild and interesting comes along like DanDaDan or Gachiakata or SANDA, but you basically have to find them through word of mouth or knowing the animation studios.
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MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 2 months ago
I’ll take “99% of Shonen” for $500, Alex.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
njm1314@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Cause you aren’t the audience.
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 month ago
Ok? The meme isn’t about the target audience.
njm1314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The comment was though.
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 month ago
Reread the meme again. Maybe. A little slower.
redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
The pirate cut of Naruto is good. All filler removed, some edits and subtitle changes to make it in line with the manga.
You still may not like it but that’s what came to my mind for quality shonen.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Could I get a lil more info as to where to find this? I’ve long held the opinion that I would actually enjoy Naruto if there was a recut of it similar to One Pace. The big thing that causes me to bounce off it is the anime’s love of flashbacks.
redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Nyaa, I think it’s the yellow flash cut. Sort by size or seeds it’ll be near the top
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Damn, even this isn’t quite what I was looking for.
I know the reason is to save costs, but holy fucking shit the anime just loves repeating scenes huh? I think the most egregious is the flashbacks to stuff already shown in the same episode, it’s like there’s only 8 minutes of actual content in a 22 minute episode. Part of the strength of One Pace is that a lot of those repeated scenes are completely cut out, which condenses a couple of episodes into one.
pir8t0x@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
That’s surprising to hear but okay
Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Is it? Shonen is a revolving door of tropes, you’d be hard pressed to find a shonen anime that actually shakes the formula up.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Personally I dont like much shonen either, but I don’t understand this argument of tropes=bad.
Just because something has a lot of tropes doesn’t mean it is bad. Tropes are tropes for a reason: it clearly means these are popular or highly liked/relatable vessels for storytelling. Not every story needs to be novel and invent new storytelling methods to be a good story. Sometimes, people just want more of the same.
The Hero’s Journey is a perfect example. Many, many stories follow this trope. And among those, some of the best stories of all time, including The Hobbit, The Odyssey, Dante’s Inferno, Beowulf, Treasure Island, etc. Literal masterpieces, peak storytelling. Just because there are other stories, or even a lot of stories, that follow the Hero’s Journey trope doesn’t make the ones I listed bad, nor does it automatically make every story that follows the trope bad either.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It isn’t necessarily that tropes are bad, it’s more like once you’ve seen a trope you can recognize the pattern and once you recognize the pattern you can more or less determine what’s going to happen.
Is the Hero’s Journey a bad trope? Not at all, as you’ve said — some of my most beloved stories are structured around the Hero’s Journey. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Redwall, but all of the books in that ‘world’ by Brian Jacques are very close to my heart. It’s also part of why I understand that once you’ve experienced at least one or two good Hero’s Journey — you’ve more or less experienced them all.
Is it wrong to be entertained by them anyway? No, I hope you don’t think I’m saying that.
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 2 months ago
I can count on one hand the number of Shonen anime that I’ve enjoyed. There’s been a few that were a “X” + shonen. But it had to be like…a 75/25 split.
wirelesswire@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I’ve been feeling this way, too. Most shows with dumbass teenage main characters are a pass for me, nowadays. I think it’s mainly because I’m getting older and they aren’t very relatable anymore.
shani66@ani.social 2 months ago
Eh, I might getting older but the old stuff still hits better. Sure there will be a genuinely good show here or there, but standards have never been lower and slop has never been this popular.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Very much this. Now people go ‘it’s pretty good’ and it’s the worst shit I’ve ever seen.
ConstantPain@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What is it with all the short-tempered screaming MCs in shonen?
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 2 months ago
It just seems like most Shonen have the same plot line of “the power of self confidence and friendship saves the day!” And it’s just so trite at this point to me. And that isn’t to say that Shonen can’t have a good plotline. But it’s usually some other genre with a sprinkling of Shonen.
That being said, there really is no accounting for taste. It’s the most popular genre for a reason after all.