Comment on UK Cops 'Ashamed and Sick' of Enforcing Ban on Anti-Genocide Group Palestine Action

Davriellelouna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Everyone knows what they did. That's not the issue that people have. The issue is proscribing them as a terrorist group when they quite clearly aren't a terrorist group in a monumental trivialisation of what terrorism actually is and an obvious attempt to silence people.

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  • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had no idea what they did, wow, I like them even more now

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• Glytch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They painted a few planes, they’re hardly the IRA.

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  • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It begs the question, in whom have they inspired terror?

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    • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Budgie the Little Helicopter” and “Jimbo of the Jet Set” are both terrified.

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      • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Jimbo has, in fact, suggested he might like the freshen up and Budgie’s just happy to be less Epstein adjacent.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thomas the Tank Engine had bricked himself into a tunnel.

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  • Mika@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Paint can do severe damage to engines

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    • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Damaging an aircraft engine is a far cry from a campaign of kneecapping, bombing and murder.

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    • qevlarr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Damaging government property is terrorism now?

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes but nobody is afraid of them. They haven’t heard anyone.

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    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Plane lives matter.

      Oh wait, planes aren’t alive. Gee, sounds like it was a non-violent crime then, huh?

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      • Mika@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Try attacking ultra high cost military property in any part of the world and tell me how you did.

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• abominable_panda@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Reckon it was because of the UK supplying over 500 RAF spy flights over gaza?

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  • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nope, because the planes they damaged weren’t spy planes.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So? What they did has nothing to do with terrorism at worst it’s vandalism.

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      • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Which under British law is terrorism if politically motivated.

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• BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think plenty of their supporters knew what they did and frankly they absolutely deserve to be punished for criminal damage. Proscribing them as a terror organisation, however, is waaaay disproportionate and in my personal opinion an abuse of the law. I think their supporters feel the same and are making a stand against this.

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• HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not only do the vaste majority know what they did. They know Starmer as a lawyer successfully defended very similar actions under the Blair administration. As not criminal due to intent to save lives.

  The level of hypocrisy within the current government is beyond belief. Starmer is clearly the puppet of someone. What or who is the only thing up for debate.

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Palestine Action was banned after they breached into a military base and damaged RAF jets

  Yes everyone knows that.

  A lot of their supporters are good people that simply aren’t aware of what the group did.

  No that is incorrect, what you are trying to do is make it look legitimate for them to be prescribed. I don’t know of anyone who both supports them but also doesn’t know what they were accused of.

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• tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  `damaged´

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  • MartianSands@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Throwing paint into a jet engine really is damage. You gave to take the engine apart and meticulously clean out the paint before you can run it again, because otherwise the engine could do itself serious harm next time it’s started. That’s a very expensive thing to do.

    That actually makes it a very effective act of protest, which is why the government has come down so hard on them

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Were the actual people who performed the action caught?

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  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s something that would cost thousands to fix if done to a car, as the paint needs to be sanded back and repainted. On an aircraft, it could easily be a six figure job, in addition to a multimillion dollar aircraft being unable to be flown.

    Calling it terrorism is silly, but it’s absolutely damage.

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• Aria@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The public must be so terrorised in their homes, knowing the orphan crushing machines can’t come and save them when they need snap-orphan crushing.

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