Only a matter of time before Google will shut that down too.
waldo_was_here@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
extremeboredom@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don’t know what we’ll do if that happens.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
I’ll be looking at the Fairphone 6 with the de-Googled e/OS option.
napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Recently a user here did the math on that and the fair/eco part of fairphone is really miniscule (they spend less than 5$ per phone and a big part of that are fairwashing credits). Unless you need the repairability or the specific specs, you might be better off to buy a cheaper phone and just donate money to a good cause.
Here is the original post: lemmy.world/post/32013987
uthredii@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
sailfish?
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ve quickily looked up Sailfish and am shocked that we haven’t been hearing more about it. Why is so? Where’s the catch?
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
A phone that works with proper linux: PostmarketOS, Sailfish OS or Ubuntu Touch.
dufkm@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Probably own a privacy-invasive phone and use it as little as possible.
DemBoSain@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
Everywhere I talk about some corporation removing features thou bought and paid for, someone says that “they personally would never used that feature”, or “serves them right for buying from that company”.
In other words, go fuck yourself.
neo2478@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Just give google more money, no thanks. Fairphone with lineage OS is a better option in my opinion.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Fairphone is contributing directly to the linux kernel so they have my vote!
neo2478@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Plus their mission to try to make a phone with fair materials and compensation in their entire production chain. Is it perfect, of course not, but a lot better than all other brands.
extremeboredom@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Easy. Refurbed phone. Google didn’t get a penny.
neo2478@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
That’s keeps the used price for pixels high, which encourages people to buy new pixels cause they know it has a good resale market.
extremeboredom@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Child slaves labored to make raw materials for the device you’re holding. Your purchase kept the market rate for raw materials high, encouraging the continued use of slave labor. Don’t you feel bad?
We do the best we can with the decisions we have available to us.
lystopad@mbin.twink.men 4 weeks ago
what will most people do, who don't have a google pixel?
don@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
lol the pinned comment on this video is
“Ok, so what do i switch to now? I refuse apple. So what do i have to chose from?”,
and Louis’ reply is “nothing”.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
And it’s not surprising he has that answer. I don’t think I’ve seen but one video from this guy but it was him talking about how that lead Dev from graphene was harassing him. And up to that point he was super big into graphene apparently.
waldo_was_here@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Google pixel 8 pro is now 569 euro in holland
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Yes, throw more money towards the company doing this, sounds solid
angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Pixel phones cost several times what my phone costed.
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Purism scams their customers left, right, and center and have for effectively their entire existence. They should not be trusted, and their phone specs are basically from 2013 sold for $800.
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Thanks for sharing so looks like that one is not an option anymore
Canuck@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
You’re not being honest. They struggled to deliver their ambitious mainline Linux phone on time during Covid yes, but they eventually delivered. The fact that they did is a huge win for the mobile Linux ecosystem becoming a real contender just when we need it. All their other products are just fine.
NXP i.MX family debuted in 2013; Intel i7 family in 2008. Their phone uses a 2017 i.MX 8M Quad, the same year they crowdfunded their phone. 2017 i7 computers are equally not from 2008…
It still today remains one of the best ARM processors with open source drivers without an integrated baseband. It means basically any flavour of Linux can install on the device, with a significant layer of protection from carrier conduited attacks. Other modules have similar tradeoffs between performance and interoperability/security.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They struggled to deliver their ambitious mainline Linux phone on time during Covid yes, but they eventually delivered.
And for the people who requrested refunds who waited months if not never received them? Despite them moving back their timeline literal years with repeated delays? I don’t care what challenges they faced; they knowingly took people’s money and refused to give it back to them when they couldn’t deliver. It’s their responsibility to be prepared for challenges. And in some extreme edge case where they couldn’t have been prepared, it’s their responsibility to be transparent about that to the people who gave them over a million dollars.
The fact that they did is a huge win for the mobile Linux ecosystem becoming a real contender just when we need it.
The Librem 5 is not a contender for shit. It’s so overpriced that it can only be successfully marketed to people who care so deeply about their privacy that they’re willing to use an inconvenient mobile OS, get completely boned on hardware specs, and deal with a company notorious for fucking over its customers.
NXP i.MX family debuted in 2013; Intel i7 family in 2008. Their phone uses a 2017 i.MX 8M Quad, the same year they crowdfunded their phone.
That CPU is based on the ARM Cortex-A53 and Cortex-M4, launched in 2012 and 2009, respectively.
2017 i7 computers are equally not from 2008…
When I say “2013”, I’m not talking about the debut year of i.MX. I’m talking about the fact that you can compare this phone side-by-side with a Galaxy S4 or S5. 3 GB of RAM, 32 GB of eMMC storage, a 720 x 1440p IPS display, no NFC, USB 3.0, an 8/13 MP front/back camera (which they inexplicably call “Mpx”; good job, guys), 802.11n Wi-Fi, no waterproofing, and a shitty-ass i.MX 8M CPU. I still remember watching a trailer for the Librem 5’s continuing development, and as they were scrolling through a web browser, it was noticeably stuttering. This was years and years ago; I can’t even imagine it today.
It still today remains one of the best ARM processors with open source drivers without an integrated baseband. It means basically any flavour of Linux can install on the device, with a significant layer of protection from carrier conduited attacks. Other modules have similar tradeoffs between performance and interoperability/security.
I do not give even the slightest inkling of a shit try to confirm or deny this, so I’m just going to assume it’s 100% true, because it’s not relevant to the point that the spec is absolute trash and being sold for $800. If you are not absolutely married to privacy, this is not a sellable product in 2025.
Want better specs? We either need SoC companies to release more of their drivers open source, or more people to patiently reverse engineer closed source ones.
Actually, if I want better specs, I’m just going to go out and buy a phone that isn’t from Purism. It really sucks that it’s not open, private hardware, but Purism is such a scummy company that so wantonly fucks over their customers that I wouldn’t touch the Librem 5 even if I could justify spending $800 for that spec just for privacy’s sake.
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Does it…work yet? Last I heard phone calls were dodgy…
Canuck@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
It works well enough to use as a daily driver on Bookworm and Trixie, but would only recommend if you’re ok with Linux, and either are a developer or don’t mind some rough parts around the edges.
E.g. some carriers uses 2 APNs, one for internet and one for MMS. You can send/receive on both, but the router is not yet complete, so if you send/receive media or use a group chat via text, need to switch to MMS mode in settings to do so first, then switch back to internet. Not an issue on most carriers as they only have 1 APN, but an edge case for the ones that do have this configuration.
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Yeah, that’s a really rough edge, but also…if it doesn’t apply to you… 🤔
Good to hear that it’s a potential option, if you do your research.
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
For which one? so far both are option outside iOS and android
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Either one, I mean Linux mobile in general
Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
The delictable irony that is you don’t want to use their is, you need to use their phone
waldo_was_here@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Yep ,thats is the way
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Pixels are inferior to even the cheapest android phones out there. I have a two year old Motorola stylus that cost $100 and battery life is still over two days and I’ve dropped it a million times. Evey pixel I’ve owned had major issues with screen or battery life not worth the price when google can’t handle making reliable hardware. Plus I have a headphone Jack.
Statick@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
I mean everyone has anecdotal evidence to “prove” their point… I have a Pixel 7a that still lasts 2 days and I’ve dropped it a million times and the screen hasn’t cracked. It’s also 2+ years old.
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
We had a 4a (battery life) and 5a (sudden screen failure. Both failed just after warranty lapsed. The 5a made it just outside the extended screen warranty period. These are well documented issues and I’ve read about issues with newer gens as well. It just doesn’t make any sense not to support cheaper phones when it comes to custom roms because you’re voiding the warranty on it. With the pixels track record of poor quality I’d rather not risk $1k+ just to run custom firmware.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
pixels battery life is lacking, but they sacrificed that for an AI-spy ware machine anyways.
ilmagico@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Sure, but the problem is the ecosystem of alternatives stores effectively collapsing or falling under Google’s control. That will affect everybody who uses them, whether on GrapheneOS, LineageOS or certified devices.