I've been building computers since 1999, and I've noticed that the industry is cyclical. I've purchased CPUs from both Intel and AMD. We need Intel to succeed, otherwise AMD will dominate the x86 processor market.
Comment on Intel details everything that could go wrong with US taking a 10% stake
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I hope they lose billions on this deal. I know I’m only going with AMD now. It’s not much, but I do buy all the tech for my company. Servers, laptops, etc… will all be AMD going forward.
mereo@piefed.ca 20 hours ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
The architecture is in its swan song anyways. Let AMD ride it into the sunset and bid it good riddance.
killerscene@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
intel must still be hanging on purely based on corporate computers? or is there something else they are a large part of?
this just be in my bubble, but i feel like anyone i know over the last 15 years has been exclusively getting AMD, whether theyre tech savvy or just a regular consumer.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
15 years? absolutely not. At the very least Skylake was very popular 5-10 years ago.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Athlon64 x2s fucking dominated Pentiums back in the mid 2000s, but the market for people playing games was much smaller. Only with the i-series did Intel come back on top. Ryzen was great when it came out for budget gaming, but Intel still was supreme in perforce until the Ryzen 3D processors came out.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
the person above said:
anyone i know over the last 15 years has been exclusively getting AMD
that is 100% nonsense.
SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
A lot of people I work with still buy Intel based on brand recognition alone. Most are tech savvy people too.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Their new GPU has a pretty solid price/performance.
CPU is shit though
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 16 hours ago
Defense contracting.
They do a a good amount of of military industrial contracting and work for 3 letter agencies on data processing/ high performance computing.
They also got awarded government funding in 2024 to build logic chips for the military in-country.
Not enough to sustain the company, but such “sensitive” programs may not be allowed to show up in revenue reports or have to be assigned to other areas or so.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
Can confirm my work laptop has an Intel chip
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
Not having competition is not a good thing. I hope a third player comes along.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
Heck of an industry to break into.
grue@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Literally illegal. Only AMD and Intel have the patent cross-licensing rights to make x86 chips. There used to be a third company (Cyrix and subsequently VIA), and (maybe?) still is, but it hasn’t been relevant to the desktop CPU market in decades.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
We don’t need competition in the x86 space, we need competition in the mobile/desktop/server space. That could easily be performance competitive ARM or RISC-v or whatever. Better even with diversity of design.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Competitor is already here. Apple and Ampere are making ARM systems that fit most users needs. There are ARM servers. But people don’t want to switch.
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
I’d buy a macbook, but it’s a lot more expensive than my “throw Linux on a used corporate thinkpad” approach, and I can tolerate macOS, but don’t love it. If you’re in the market for a new premium laptop, I think they’re pretty established, and I do think people are buying them.
Ampere workstations are cool, but in a price range where most customers are probably corporate, and they’ll mostly buy what they know works. I think their offerings are mostly niche for engineers who do dev work with stuff that will run on arm servers.
I’d say non-corporate arm adoption will grow when there’s more affordable new and used options from mainstream manufacturers. Most people won’t go for an expensive niche option, and probably don’t care about architecture. Most Apple machines probably sell because they’re Apple machines, not because of the chip inside.
I don’t know exact numbers, but I do feel that arm server adoption isn’t going to badly, especially with new web servers.
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I own an M1 MacBook. I don’t use it nearly as much as my main pc (gaming laptop with CachyOS (Arch-based, btw)) but it’s very well built and is well optimized. If I could get the build of a MacBook but with the specs of my gaming pc without spending 2x the price as I would on a pre-build windows machine I would absolutely do it.
pycorax@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Apple doesn’t really exist as a competitor for a number of industries and use cases due to not officially supporting anything other than OSX so I’m not sure if they’re a fair comparison here.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Would TSMC be considered a competitor to AMD?
grue@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
No. AMD is fabless; TSMC doesn’t design chips. They’re in different parts of the supply chain.