we really did stay out all day until the street lights came on, and hang out in pizza places and malls
We do t need AI slop to remind of of this. All it will do is bastardize the memory and replace it with cringy imposters of what once was.
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KingDingbat@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
It’s true that this is all AI slap and that they are disgustingly manipulative videos but I do disagree with the notion that the nostalgia and The era was fake and never existed. As a child of the '80s and '90s we really did stay out all day until the street lights came on, and hang out in pizza places and malls and the internet and our screen life has played a major role in changing that. What is heinous here is that people are creating triggers just to manipulate generations. Not the nostalgia.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
RBWells@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Sure, but we also drank in parking lots because there was nothing to do, had guys physically grabbing at us instead of just yelling stuff, got bullied in school more, and the violent crime rate was something like 10x what it is now. Oh, and our friends were dying of AIDS as well. And the bay was polluted, and downtown was so dead we could walk around it like a ghost town.
I will never understand nostalgia. There are good things and bad things about every time. But even with the fuckers trying to pull us backwards now, there has been progress.
Montagge@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
*Your experiences may differ
Windex007@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Yeah, the article repeatedly suggesting it was a disingenuous depiction of the era, but didn’t seem to make any attempt to support that assertion.
I’d love a breakdown as to what specifically was disingenuous.
I mean, like any social media, it’s selectively showing “the good”, and ignoring the bad. Is that it? Like, they can’t (and wouldn’t even if they could) put the heavy cigarette smell of any restaurant of the era through the phone.
Zephorah@discuss.online 11 hours ago
If you watched Stranger Things, the depiction of Nancy going to work and being relegated to making coffee for the boys instead of being taken seriously at an actual job is an iconic representation of women’s struggle in the workplace. Remember, women were only allowed to have their own bank accounts, credit cards, and home loans as legally protected assets, starting in the late 1970s. We were deemed more incompetent, and more wards of our husbands in those respects. Inertia of those notions remained even after the legality changed. That whole bit in Delores Claiborne, where her husband finds her “private”, “personal”, only her name on it bank account and just empties it: real. (That is what RBG had a deciding vote on btw, what gave her such credit back in the day, changing financial freedoms for women to match those of men.)
Yes, this may seem a little focused on women, but it’s a significant piece of the “things were better” push on the right. The right did grow, in part, as a reaction to the loss of the more controlled, traditional, “kept” female. It’s important to keep a full visual of what going back could mean. Roe has already fallen.
Moving away from screen time to more face to face is good. Doesn’t mean texting is bad, it’s fantastic, amazing even, how easy it is to communicate. I love it. But I still drive 10-15min to sit down in a living room face to face with people. I feel little to no stress when disagreement, argument, or even anger occurs. Facing the normal range of human emotion in another doesn’t make me want to hide.
Even just moving back to more long form media would help stop the destructive, anxiety perpetuating, focus reducing rewiring happening. YouTube statistics are now saying anything over 10 minutes is doomed to die based on viewer preference. 9 minutes or less or gtfo. Shorts are quickly taking over and perpetually rewiring people on the daily.
shalafi@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Wow that was well stated. Bravo.
IllNess@infosec.pub 12 hours ago
I guess so. This is from the article:
What the videos don’t show is how bad racism was before everyone is able to record at anytime. Shows and movies were very streotypical. Actually since cancel culture wasn’t a thing for not famous people, people were really racists in just everyday conversations.
The government’s war on immigrants is very much like the war on drugs with were specifically created to target hippies and black communities while at the same time suppying the communities with the drugs they deemed illegal.
In terms of the environment, lead was banned in gasoline in 1996. I thought it was way earlier than that when I looked it up. Shame really. I am no a scientists and the results of microplastics in our system is still being researched but lead poisoning effects are very well documented and I believe the pernament mental effects of it can be seen in a large portion of the boomer population.
Windex007@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yeah, I kinda imagined this was the nature of the issue.
Not really sure how I feel about the implied argument, though, which appears to be that it is wrong to create period art (or ask an AI to generate a video) which doesn’t include some (all?) negative experiences of that period.
May I paint the view from my balcony, omitting the mosquitos biting me while I paint?
I think the crux must be intention… Which is notoriously hard to prove.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It’s really not. We know foreign countries are using ai to radicalized boomers and incels. So it’s just safer to assume the worst until we are back in control of our society
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Lead was out of most gasoline in the 70s. It is still available in some, for example airports. The big thing about the 90s was that was when teens and young adults didn’t grow up around it. It’s a long term poison.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
What was disingenuous?
It was fucking AI slip posing as real people.
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
It’s not even just the bad they’re not showing, they aren’t showing anything outside of a suburban straight white guys point of view. Which does reflect a lot of 80s media but doesn’t reflect the experience of a lot of people in the 80s
Windex007@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I think that’s an interesting take, especially because it’s AI generated.
I think it’s fair for artists to depict their own experiences. If these were hand-crafted, I don’t think I could vibe on that criticism. I think it’d be truly disingenuous for a white suburban straight man to be creating art of the experience of a rural black lesbian.
But, AI isn’t an artist. It has no experience.
HubertManne@piefed.social 12 hours ago
I know I have seen some way off depictions in tv shows and movies.