Comment on Americans’ junk-filled garages are hurting EV adoption, study says
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It ain’t $80k worth of junk in the garage, it’s the $80k
As opposed to what your comment implies, the drivetrain (EV or ICE) has nothing to do with cars spying on you. You should not blame the technology itself because shady car companies spying on your internet connected car. Most of them are well known ICE car brands that does the spying (GM, Volkswagen for instance)
Yes, most new ICE cars are Internet connected now, not just EVs.
Blame those greedy compagnies, not the technology.
exactly, that is an issue with new cars in general. It’s not a reason to buy a new ICE car instead of a new EV.
It is a reason to not buy a new car which means people who aren’t buying new cars won’t be buying EV’s.
They won't be buying new cars in the near future, but their cars will be wearing out and spare parts for old cars always become hard to find. Either they will be spending a large part of their time maintaining the car, including making parts from scratch, or they will forced to buy a new car anyway.
You could always pick up a 9-year-old Bolt
As a matter of fact, ICE cars were connected to the internet way before the first EV was connected to the internet.
What does that have to do with EVs?
Apparently people are living double lives and are afraid their secret identity will be uncovered by checks notes corporations who already know more about us because we have a smartphone in our pocket.
Privacy matters.
The government and corporations abused this information by stopping protestors getting to their destination.
Protestors can atleast use faraday bags or just leave their phones at home. Now they can’t even get to important events.
Now this information is being used by ICE to arrest immigrants.
Considering how conservative views and Nazis are coming back in to fashion, this is very scary for anyone not white and male.
Privacy matters. If it didnt, bathrooms would not have doors.
privacy matters, but data collection isn’t limited to EVs. Pretty much all new cars collect data whether EV ICE or hybrid.
I have a used model 3 (I bought it before shit really started going downhill) and I’ve been contemplating disconnecting the wifi and cellular antennas. My car wouldn’t be able to send any images/video anywhere, I wouldn’t be tracked except for my location when I stop at supercharger stations, and I would never have to risk getting Grok installed in my car.
Would you mind posting your phone book and a copy of all your text messages here for us all to read? Can we see your photo album, all credit card transactions, amazon purchase history, GPS location data, credit score? We promise only to sell this info to other people, use it to sell you stuff, raise your insurance rates, tell us where to focus our funding for political campaigns. Don’t worry, we’ll only save it forever and you can be assured that we’ll feed this into AI models 10 or 20 years from now, along with everyone else’s data, establishing a massive cache of information from which incredible inferences will be possible. We may or may not use this information to enrich ourselves, increase wealth inequality, influence politics. You should surely not take steps to limit the data being collected about you. Just relax your body. Let it happen.
Would you mind posting your phone book
Did you know that before cellular phones were a thing, the phone company regularly sent out books with everyone’s name, phone number, and sometimes even their address in them?
You could even find such a book in public in these little things called “Phone booths”.
Well my next car will be an EV so I’m holding in to what i got for now
If we ever see a Slate truck, that will be your best bet.
with the used EV tax credit there are good options at ~20k.
Older bolt EVs all had their batteries replaced in 2021/2022, and can be had for under $20kbefore any incentives.
You can get electric for only a slightly higher cost than gas, just not the “premium” ones. As for Spyware, that’s any modern car. It has nothing to do with being electric.
Yes, and gas cars are too expensive.
Workers aren’t buying new cars unless they need to.
aword@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
Yup. Find me a car that respects my privacy and won't advertise to me and I'm in.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How clean is your garage? Do you have one? Just curious.
aword@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
Currently parked in it!
paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nice
blargh513@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I do not understand people who use their garage to store useless crap and leave their car outside. The car is more valuable than the crap.
Dump all that useless junk into a dumpster. Get a bike shed, put the mower in it too.
The garage is for cars, not bikes, mowers or trash nobody cares about.
Looking at you California.
bluGill@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Only if you spend way too much money on a depreciating asset that won't be that valuable for long. For that matter storing inside or outside makes zero difference to the value. The stuff in my garage is more valuable than my car (my car is 26 years old so this is a much lower bar than most people), is more sensitive to weather than my cars, and I enjoy it more than cars.
I don't get this obsession people have with depreciating assets like cars. They brag about how great they are, take good care of it, and then 3 years latter trade in that piece of junk...
Besides, the worst weather for cars is bright sun, and most cars are parked outside in a parking lot (at work) when it is sunny, and only put in the garage when it is dark.
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I’m not in the US, but here where we have snow and all the fun that comes with it using garage can be actually harmful to your car (and your garage) unless you spend a ton of energy to melt and dry all the snow every night. If there’s some snow or ice on somewhere it doesn’t really do anything but bring it in a lukewarm garage and then you have water (and likely road salt) all over the thing. So your car corrodes faster and there’s a ton of moisture in the garage for mold, rot and everything else prospering inside.
I’m driving old, cheap cars. Keeping them dry them every day during winter in the garage would easily cost me as much as the cars themselves in a year. So cars stay outside and garage stores my tools and other valuables in a good condition so that I can fix those old shitboxes.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
my ford has no subscriptions that are needed (other than the usual sirius XM and nav subs that all cars have). There is data collection but you are able to opt out.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
If the car has an RF transmitter of any kind installed, it is a HARD no.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
is an RF transmitter in your phone a hard no as well?