Comment on The curse of ‘Disco Elysium’, the greatest RPG ever made

• Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Xenogears. Just off the top of my head.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That was made 25 years ago. And just off the top of my head, Xenosaga surpassed it.

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just because an RPG was made 25 years ago that does not automatically make it bad lol

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    • rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      well to say Xenosaga surpassed it…I mean that’s not hard to do.

      Xenogears is great but keep in mind it’s not finished. the entire second disc is proof of this. It’s an unfinished game that is regarded as one of the greatest RPG’s of all time. Same with Xenosaga. that’s an unfinished series. so to say Xenosaga surprassed it…well yeah it got further along than Xenogears did.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Get in the fucking robot, Shinji Fei

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Half-finished, at best.

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Western - Ultima IV
  Eastern - Phantasy Star II

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  • TacoSocks@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Damn, RPGs peaked in the 80s for you. What did these games do right that nothing has done better since?

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exist when they cared enough so that nothing can ever surpass the nostalgia of the game, regardless of quality.

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      • loonsun@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The story and engagement. Ultima IV let you talk to literally every NPC in the game, everyone had a name and a job and something to say.

      Phantasy Star II was essentially ripped off for Final Fantasy VII to the point where from the minute they introduced Aerith I was like “Well, shit, better not give HER anything I want to keep, she’s dead 1/2 way through the game.” (That was Nei in PSII).

      To be clear, those are just the first two off the top of my head, there were other excellent, excellent RPGs.

      I really liked the gold box D&D games from SSI - Pool of Radiance, Curse of the Azure Bonds, Secret of the Silver Blades. They don’t hold up well now due to all being turn based RPGs. There is a Steam Collection of ALL of that.

      Speaking of, before Fallout, there was Wasteland which has had a modern reboot and sequel. Also a great game that had copy protection built into a story book full of backstory paragraphs.

      For JRPGs, it’s hard to go wrong with Suikoden 1 and 2, recently re-released on PS5, drop dead gorgeous RPGs.

      I’ve played probably hundreds of RPGs since the start.

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      • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It LOOKS great, the writing is dogshit.

        The writing is the key point, it has the best writing of most novels so that shows how badly the game is being misrepresented even here by people who didn’t give it a chance because they expected something else or have millisecond-long attention spans. I don’t know why anyone would compare it to any of the other games you listed, the title of the post and article is clickbait, the game is an interactive narrative, not anything like fucking Phantasy Star or others. They’re all great games but it’s weird trying to box them together.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not OP, but:

  • Chrono Trigger
  • Morrowind (or maybe Skyrim)
  • Final Fantasy (esp. 6 and 7)
  • Baldur’s Gate (esp. 3)
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Fallout (esp. New Vegas)
  • The Witcher (esp. 3)
  • World of Warcraft (not my jam, but it’s insanely popular)

  There are a ton more, especially if you broaden the definition to sub-genres to include Diablo 2, TLoZ games (esp. Ocarina of Time and Breath of the Wild), and Dark Souls.

  There are just so many bangers.

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  • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Half of these games are absolutely nothing like each other, maybe we would all be better off if we just stopped trying to place boxes around things and appreciated them for what they are.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I intentionally picked a diverse set of examples. My point here is that “best RPG” doesn’t make much sense without qualifiers, like a year or sub-genre.

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