Heartbreaking: one of the most deplorable people in the world made a good point.
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november@lemmy.vg 3 weeks agoGuy’s an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
TheFogan@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He was an edgy teenager deep into his 20’s.
TheFogan@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Valid… but also have to point out he hit big as a celebrity. When you are literally raking in millions of dollars. He was about 21 when he started his channel. and bottom line is, he got views, he got likes, and it turned into real cash. Most of our jobs etc… encourage us to grow up. His job, rewarded him for catering to his base… which of were younger than him.
seralth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone is a edgy teenager well into their 20s.
As the joke goes, if your 18 your a child, if your 23 your a teenager, if your 29 your 30, if your 34 your late 20s, if your 35 your 35.
Most people in most western worlds don’t even get to start being an adult till they are well into their mid 20s, which means they only START growing up at like 24-25.
It takes years to actually mature. Anyone who understand this has never worked a job that has frequent fresh to the workforce people cycling though frequently.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Others have pointed out how people keep growing up in their 20s and 30s. But also as a media personality, you can’t ignore the possibility that he’s playing a character on camera. It could legitimately be he just kept acting like his younger self while recording because that pays the bills
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
he’s still swedish though
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
He emigrated to Japan a few years ago
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
[deleted]TheFogan@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
and then his allegedly support of nazis.
The nazi one IMO was pretty BS. Largely it came from him playing a game, and commenting that other people were trolling putting up swastika’s etc…
Which I’ll admit, he handled the criticism poorly, did mostly the wrong things because he found it more of a joke than a real thing. He rightly noted that one of the critics was JK Rowling, who he fairly pointed out had no business calling anyone such. When Charlottsville happened is when he actually gave what I considered a pretty sincere fair apology where he basically noted, "holy shit I thought I was being accused of something that didn’t exist, I didn’t realize that nazi’s are actually still so prevelant in modern society so I wasn’t taking things seriously.
Now afterwords him dropping the n bomb on a stream was pretty damn bad, though he apologized and admitted it. Still kind of falls into the fact that he’d been paid for years to join in games with a bunch of edgy teenagers, and at the end of the day if you spend too much time with a group of people, you are going to slip up and talk like them.
Again not calling him a great guy or anything, but I’d say everything in him strikes me as a kid that never grew up (because his life was basically set up encouraging him not to), didn’t understand the weight of a lot of the things he was around, and made a bunch of childish stupid mistakes.
Cossty@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If pewdiepie is one of the most deplorable people in the world you know of. You must live in some kind of alternative universe and in paradise.
altphoto@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
The president is pewmypie? I had no idea!
fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Hey they said one of.
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve never watched him, but isn’t he just a Twitch streamer?
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The enemy of my enemy or some shit.
boboliosisjones@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
What’s he done to earn that title really? We live in a world of genocide, pointless wars and rapists.
nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Slightly right of neutral on a moving train is pretty bad.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
He annoys me, which is arguably worse.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I’ve never watched him (I hated him when he would just scream at video games) but he seems to be a lot more mature these days. He even posted a video on why you should switch to Linux recently
somewa@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
I was surprised that the video was actually quite good.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Calling this guy an ass shows that you have no idea who he is. You’re probably the type of person who thinks they’re well informed but exclusively get their info from echo chambers like Lemmy.
november@lemmy.vg 2 weeks ago
🙄
kemsat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I disagree. Things seem to get worse when the herds move to them. It’s as if things are good precisely because they aren’t there.
dieTasse@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
bro, open your mind for a minute. Privacy is for everyone. And we need masses wanting privacy otherwise nothing changes.
bastion@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
-bro, but yeah, good point.
dieTasse@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Fair
kemsat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I definitely agree with you, but I remember how Digg & then Reddit both went to shit once the masses started to use them. Same with Facebook.
I feel like if we all spread out between multiple platforms, none will become big enough for the enshitification to hit them.
dieTasse@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Aha, I understand what you mean. Maybe that’s kind of why fediverse (federation) makes sense. At least with social networks.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I think you’re seeing the wrong causation when it comes to enshittification. FOSS licenses prevent that sort of thing from happening. Linux is already, by far and away, the most popular server OS so consumers moving to it isn’t going to make it worse.
I dunno, maybe be less of a hipster bestie?
Lawnman23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
How are you going to do that advertising using one of their products? He has 100M followers and he’s a multi millionare, he should close his youtube account and move in another platform
november@lemmy.vg 2 weeks ago
Good point. People should only advocate for dgoogling on platforms full of people who have already degoogled. It’s stupid to try and reach people still using Youtube.
candyman337@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Really didn’t like him when he was younger, he was a naive swedish kid that didn’t realize that the dumb shit he said online had ramifications because his audience was so big. He helped platform Ben Shapiro to a younger generation when he had him on his channel for a video, he had that scandal where he said the n word, and then of course the clip where he says the glass ceiling doesn’t exist.
I hope these days he’s realizing how idiotic some of that shit was and is actually trying to use his platform to make his viewers aware of valid issues rather than spouting off about topics he knows nothing about to his viewers who take his word as truth.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He also paid some Africans to hold an anti-semitic sign. To prove people will do things for money I think?
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The entire thesis of that video was “fiver and things like that lead to exploitation of the global poor”, the sign thing was just a catchy clickbait thing.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He’s a dumbass.
PedroG14@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Can you write here what was in that sign? That catch clickbaity thing that Felix ordered?
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I think his reasoning was to see how far the sign holding folks would go for money, and they apparently didn’t really have any limits. Should he have done and shown it on youtube is the thing he can be criticized for
nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
That’s pretty apalling. What kind of flowing sticks with someone who humiliates people just because they could use extra grocery money? Just because he had so much cash that he could take a voyercation to somewhere unfamiliar to do it?
If he’s come to his senses, fine. Anyway if new users can’t figure out CWs and pronouns… that’s why we have de-fed, block, and filter…
Maybe someone thought genocide imagery and messaging was a ha ha funny toy. I’m not over it, as someone who deals with hatecrimey stuff on the reg.