You also have to remember to have that adapter with you
I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced…
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Laser@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
An issue shared with the headphones themselves
Fermion@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
I just leave the adapter plugged into the headphones. Then there’s nothing extra to manage.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I have like a dozen pairs of headphones
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
If you need to plug the headphones into the adapter, you can just leave them plugged in after disconnecting from the phone
This way, the headphones almost become ones with USB-C connectors than auxiliary barrels.
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can find adapters that can charge while still having a 3.5mm back
hcbxzz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
fast charging / USB-PD may not work, and 3.5mm media controls may not pass through properly
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I have a tablet that came with a C to 3.5 adapter and it worked well enough for a bit but soon enough it was only intermittently allowing the headphone connection to work, with a message about the port being dirty or something. Yet I could go right from unplugging that and putting the charger in and it worked fine.
There’s just no substitute for a dedicated port, especially when it barely takes up any room
Panties@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It’s really a small inconvenience, but using an adapter would mean I’d be prone to misplace it when I use my headphones on anything else, so it hardly makes anything better
Laser@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The reason for not using a headphone jack is making it simpler for the manufacturer, one less connector to handle which also limits how slim a phone can be.
I’m not saying this is good for the consumer, but there are reasons for integrating the functionality into the USB-C port.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
For $700 I’m not interested in compromising my own convenience for theirs.
Laser@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Fair, though the fact doesn’t exist in a vacuum.
If you want easily replaceable parts and a system that can unlock the bootloader for example, your argument can be made for 99% of phones on the market. The more requirements you add, the smaller the scope gets until there are no devices left to choose from.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
Then you’re going to have to go and start your own phone company. Good luck to you, let us know when your phone comes out.
hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
These points were all disproved long ago. The jack is a the same thickness as the display.
The reason is because BT headphones have a much higher margin, and need to be replaced every few years because of the battery (if not already replaced because they were lost or damaged).
It’s just a dumb cash grab.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
This would make sense if the only Bluetooth headphones that worked with the phone were made by the same company, but alas, that’s not how it works.
The reason they don’t have a headphone jack anymore is because it’s easier to make without it, saves money, has a built in replacement in BT, and people overwhelmingly love BT headphones due to being wireless.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
It’s not hard to manufacture a headphone jack. We’ve been doing it since the 80s. Probably costs them a penny BOM.
ProjectPatatoe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think his point was the jack itself but the device around the jack. Physically and electronically.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
one less connector to handle which also limits how slim a phone can be.
The headphone jack is 3.5mm. iPhones are ~7.5mm thick, more than double. The smallest phone available on the market is 4.2mm.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
That means the audio still goes through another DAC, lowering the sound quality, compared to an analog 3.5 jack. Also, who wants to further risk wearing out\vreaking their charge port, jack inputs almost seem like they can’t break.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Technically it only goes through 1 dac, not “another one”. But still, yeah, your phone’s dac is most likely a lot better than the one on a $10 adapter. However, the usb-c spec does allow an analog audio signal passthrough. Whether that’s available or not depends on the phone I guess.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Too bad LG got out of the phone biz. They had the best dacs and some good phones.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Damn right. LG G5 for example was a pretty interesting concept that could’ve evolved into something cool.
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I disagree about this being a good solution. USB-C is not meant to take the strain of being used as an audio port when being used in the go so there is risk of damaging the port while a headphone jack is more stable and allows the plug to rotate. Plus I don’t want to have a dingle I can forget when in a rush.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They should make cases with the adapter built in, the way they used to (still do?) for external battery packs.
PrinzKasper@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Just have the dongle permanently attached to your earbuds like it’s a part of the cable.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Awesome solution. Remove the por that everything used to have and make consumers buy adapters. I have like 5 headphones. Should I go buy an adapter for each one? Not to mention that I can easily replace a headphone cable but if a 3.5 to usb-c adapter breaks, it basically becomes junk.