Yermaw@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Thats way too busy. Should definitely just keep the rainbow flag. Not every little niche needs specific representation, just have the rainbow as a catchall for any kind of deviation from heterosex
Wasn’t the entire idea of the rainbow flag to just say “this includes everyone”, to be inclusive?
Then people started “well red is this, yellow is that, green is that …” Making the entire thing as exclusive as can be, now requiring a color and or symbol for each and every tiny different identity they were trying to be
Then people started “well red is this, yellow is that, green is that …”
But the stripes always meant something:
Hot pink = Sex
Red = Life
Orange = Healing
Yellow = Sunlight
Green = Nature
Turquoise = Magic/Art
Indigo = Serenity
Violet = Spirit
Flags being symbolic was never the issue. The progress flag was made in lieu of black, trans, and intersex queer USAmericans being excluded from big, corporate backed, pride events, which brought to the fore, a slew of intra-queer tensions.
By making this new flag, it was a way of symbolically coming together. And it’s stuck around because of, well… Everything going on lately.
Imo, the rainbow flag is perfectly inclusive. By focusing on one minority, you make it less diverse and less inclusive.
Rainbow flag is best
deviation from heterosex
Totally normal words to say. BTW trans and intersex people can still be straight.
They all sprung up in that period where flags were trendy. Every little camp had to have one to feel like a singled-out tribe—and, no, this isn’t just kink flags. This meant many would be flag designers overnight.
The result is there’s some really fugly designs out there in the wild now and the idiots can’t go back. But most people are over flag phase now, so you’re unlikely to ever see this and most others out in the wild.
Nothing fails more at its job than a pride flag that people have no idea what is. It’s almost irony.
And is this one ugly? Oh, yes. Enough to turn a person straight.
The solution is inheritance. If you want a more specific flag, inherit from the rainbow, but add an insignia. Now you have a unifying flag that is more meaningful. Also you can skip the complexity of trying to make everyone stand out because the rainbow is all inclusive.
For example, I also like the pink triangle pirate flag. If you want a gay flag, take the rainbow and add that pirate insignia. Think like the US flag which is also a bunch of stripes but with some star insignia. Now you have one clear insignia on a field of inclusiveness
You’re right. Could literally design anything and people that know nothing about any of it could figure it out quickly. But instead, a salad of sex preferences, gender, race, kink, specific US cities, all appearing to be under the Intersex insignia.
It’s always seemed so bad to me that it’s more likely to be done by an anti-woke troll or someone like Michael Scott discovering Pride Month.
It’s just offensive. Obviously to the eyes, but also to any group being shoved together within its borders.
Here’s the thing though, I know this is an ally flag, but it’s like they never considered symbols:
Ignore the really bad black and white background for a second.
Imagine the left side of the shape is an homage to the original pride flag and the right side is WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IN IT. Uniform clean design with representation. Easy to draw for the layman (fill both sides in with rainbow if you want), and easy to add specific representation
Railison@aussie.zone 3 days ago
I thought the rainbow was supposed to mean it encompassed everyone.
The colours on the flag apparently weren’t sufficiently inclusive so perhaps this should be the next flag:
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Draegur@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
this fails to capture the grades of saturation.
Here is every color in the RGB (#000000-#FFFFFF) color space arranged sequentially on a Hilbert curve (but scaled down to 512x512)
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VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Why are there jpg compression artifacts in your png?
Draegur@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Probably because it’s been downscaled from its full resolution.
Also rotated for some reason from the original? Or perhaps just rendered from the same mathematical sequence with some parameters swapped. Here’s an uncompressed one:
allrgb.com/hilbert
Acamon@lemmy.world 2 days ago
This gets my vote
sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
coool
Draegur@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
there are a lot of pieces that use one pixel per color too! you might really dig what people can do with it: it’s honestly astonishing the kinds of arrangements they can make just by mixing the colors.
allrgb.com
cecilkorik@piefed.ca 3 days ago
I would absolutely and unironically fly this flag, although to be even more inclusive it also needs an alpha layer. Perhaps it should be a cube? Actually even that might not be inclusive enough, we need more dimensions. BRB I need to figure out how to attach a tesseract to my flagpole, I guess I'll need some kind of gordian knot?
DokPsy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I was thinking more adding from outside the visible spectrum. So a flag with the entire electromagnetic spectrum from ~10^-20m to ~10^17m
nomecks@lemmy.wtf 2 days ago
You need a hyperpole
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 days ago
But if you include alphas , you need to be inclusive of betas and sigmas, and other Greek letters still undefined
Asetru@feddit.org 3 days ago
Black and white are pretty overrepresented there though. Turning this into a sphere might help?
mienshao@lemm.ee 3 days ago
God this website is just like reddit. Dumbasses just saying shit. No, the original Pride flag had 8 colors, and each color had a specific meaning. It wasn’t just “to encompass everyone.” Like what the hell, lemmy? Why are we doing bogus discourse on here too? Every year I gotta deal with a bunch of fucking straights dumping on the Progress Pride flag—seriously go fuck yourselves.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Each color had a specific meaning, but none of those meanings were a specific gender or sexuality. The meanings were intentionally tied to concepts, rather than to distinct groups of people. This was so it could encompass everyone. But then dumbasses started trying to claim specific colors as their own, which excluded people. And so then every group suddenly started making their own flags, since they were being excluded by the people claiming one of the colors on the rainbow.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Damn, you’re awfully hateful
Railison@aussie.zone 2 days ago
dw I am extremely gay
Venator@lemmy.nz 2 days ago
But that doesn’t include infrared or ultraviolet 🤣