Comment on ‘Modern cars are a privacy nightmare,’ the worst Mozilla’s seen

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• lettruthout@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Probably would vary depending upon the brand, but I wonder how hard it would be to disable the network. At some point would the vehicle refuse to operate without a network connection?

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  • FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maybe not even intentionally. When games first became “online only” it was a big deal, now many games just break if they can’t initialize an internet connection. Even ones that don’t use it.

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    • SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which is total and complete bullshit that should be illegal.

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    • Philolurker@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The best part is when the publisher shuts down the server on their end so the game breaks even if you are connected to the internet. I’m still waiting for Blood Dragon to get a patch to remove the periodic calls home, but it doesn’t seem likely at this point

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    • Darth_Vader__@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      this is a legit usecase of game cracking

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  • halcyondays@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • sparky1337@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      VW hides a fair few of theirs behind the gauge cluster.

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  • jscummy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Imagine getting lost in the middle of nowhere and your car refuses to start because it can’t get internet

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    • fuzzzerd@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That sounds like a feature to me. Gotta pay extra for that offline start capability. And if you don’t designate this far as your offline remote start car before hand you’re fucked.

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  • T156@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think so. The risk of a PR disaster because a car refused to start, due to them not having a signal either due to an outage, or being underground, is too great.

    Car companies probably don’t want to deal with the headlines of “Man left stranded in parking garage after his car was unable to connect to the internet”, or “Woman marooned on mountainside because the car could not connect with the servers”.

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  • Darorad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Probably not, I’m sure there’s plenty of situations they wouldn’t have network connections, so we’d have prohably heard about it if it were na issue with existing cars.

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  • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d be interested in the ramifications of just clipping the network module/chip

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  • 50MYT@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some brands it’s easy.

    I know my Ford just has a data toggle. Turn it off and it stops sending and receiving data from the cloud.

    But stuff stops working when I do that. The traffic, and app stuff all need it I think. Gps has a toggle too but it just seems to turn off the map stuff.

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    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The newest car ive ever driven is from 2007, I legit dont see a downside to disabling that shit.

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    • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What we want is to be able to direct the data, in standard protocols, to a server of our choosing. To be able to use apps of our choosing. No damn lock-ins.

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      • 50MYT@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If they don’t get benefits from the data, why won’t spend money putting in the features

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  • 30mag@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At some point would the vehicle refuse to operate without a network connection?

    No doubt.

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