While they’re at it, why not just hack the government to reverse last year’s election, amirite?
I know most of us loved Mr Robot and watching dinozzo and abby double team a keyboard and Wolverine getting a blowy and all that fun stuff, but that really isn’t how things work.
These aren’t off the shelf pre-trained models. The model is a big part of the company’s product and, increasingly, the cost of training is being partially offloaded to customers under the guise of “tune the model to your data”.
And IF we have a Bones situation where someone has inscribed a virus onto human remains to destroy a one of a kind machine or whatever: That is what version control is for. “Hmm. The May 2025 model isn’t working. Okay, switch back to April”
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
I read that glow in the dark material will trigger an ir motion sensor. So don’t plant small flags coated with glow in the dark paint across from the cameras because it will cause them to take and send thousands of useless images and make them think their camera is broken.
NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
I work in security, including massive video systems. With any unit made in the last 5 years and any software past entry level consumer grade this is a non-issue. Especially if someone is using descriptive visual search when pulling up video vs just scanning through every motion event.
notfromhere@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
You’re assuming competence is part of the equation. Some passive resistance of the operators could make this viable.
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
As far as I’m aware these are basically just trail cameras, they snap a photo on motion and send it over mobile data to be processed server side for ocr. They claim they can also identify make and model and anything different like bumper stickers. I wouldn’t be surprised if their object recognition is just people in India. I also suspect that their OCR is, or at least was provided through 3rd party api calls.
NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
You’d be surprised how much can be done at the edge with current cameras. I’m not sure exactly how these particular ones are set up, but the other major players in the space (Axis,Bosch,Panasonic) all have pretty surprising levels of local compute dedicated to “AI”, and leveraging external VMS platforms can exponentially increase capabilities. It’s pretty idiot proof once set up, as it’s aimed at desk jockies that monitor and report with minimal systems training.
Again, not this specific system but this stuff is far from sci-fi anymore.
raltoid@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Most of them will trigger from reflected IR. Which is easy to do with some metallic mylar. Those emergency blankets cut into strips should work like a charm.
notfromhere@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
That requires an IR source. The glow in the dark might trigger without an external IR source. So depends on the capabilities of the system in question. Some have active IR scene illuminators, some are passive.
raltoid@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It’s been a while since I did that sort of thing, but from what I remember: The vast majority of “night vision” cameras are active IR.
And the type of imagery these searches are looking for, would most likely be fooled by a couple of reflective strips blowing in the wind. Although I might recommend using strips of that reflective stuff on safety vests, that way you’d really “poison the pool”.
MangoCats@feddit.it 6 days ago
Or, they’ll just develop downstream garbage filters and effectively ignore the little flags. Sure, some energy will be wasted, but it won’t be occupying too many analyst brain cells.
Source: I have such a setup at home. My camera goes crazy detecting motion in the dark, CPU usage goes up. Main thing I notice? CPU temp rises from 50C to 55C. That’s it.
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
These are also on solar/battery and use cell data.
MangoCats@feddit.it 6 days ago
Might give them trouble in pre-dawn hours, might not depending on the design. I doubt the municipalities and government agencies pay much of anything for data usage.
Fun fact, most places the department of transportation pays nothing for the electricity that runs street lights - electric company just gives it to them unmetered - in exchange for good and valuable consideration like right of way usage.