Netflix tried to get distribution in Blockbuster and a partnership w/them and were told to fuck off …
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pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoHey, RIM/Blackberry’s CEO went to mobile world Congress in 2010, 3 solid YEARS after the iPhone launched, was dominating and defining the smartphone world and said, “we feel touchscreen is not the future of mobile phones” and rolled out another hybrid touch/keyboard model like the 5 they already had
Blackberry was $150/share as of 2009 with the entire world in front of it. It’s now worth $3.59/share.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Blackberry and Nokia were so slow to react to the iPhone, it was painful to watch.
pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And then, to bring us full circle to OP, Microsoft made it’s strategic acquisition of Nokia 😂 theverge.com/…/microsoft-nokia-acquisition-costs
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Their stuff was better, but disadvantaged by public perception. A perfect storm one can say.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Their stuff was significantly worse in user experience. Buttery smooth scrolling and highly reactive multi touch on a touch screen only device was revolutionary. Touch screens back then were known to be shitty to use. The competition to the iPhone were phones with tons of buttons, styluses and cumbersome user interfaces.
All previous players in the smartphone market Blackberry, Nokia, Palm, Windows mobile were slow to adapt and failed.
Palm’s webOS was competitive to iOS and in many ways superior. It failed because of mediocre hardware, bad carrier deals, and running out of money too quickly.
Google‘s Android succeeded despite sucking until about version 4 by willpower and deep pockets from Google.
The original introduction keynote for the iPhone was mindblowing back then.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
with tons of buttons, styluses and cumbersome user interfaces.
My dad had one. I liked that more. What you call cumbersome I call clean and sharp.
While those rows of vaguely symbolic mildly nauseating icons we have now irritate, overload and suppress me.
And back then I didn’t know that, but making Tcl/Tk programs for Windows Mobile of that time, for example, was as easy as for desktops.
All previous players in the smartphone market Blackberry, Nokia, Palm, Windows mobile were slow to adapt and failed.
Yes, that’s why Stephen Elop went from Microsoft to Nokia, buried Nokia’s relevant smartphone business, then went right back to Microsoft. Blackberry was too business-oriented, they should have marketed more universally.
And they even dropped Maemo. Maemo didn’t have any of Symbian’s supposed “burning” traits. Nobody can persuade me a Linux+Qt based system is worse than iOS, especially of that time.
Dunno about Palm then.
Windows Mobile was Microsoft’s accidental good product, of course they decided to bury that as soon as they found an excuse.
Let’s clarify this - I don’t consider iPhone anything good. Its success is a result of a cultist phenomenon which didn’t lead to anything good either. I agree about Android.
But I can also see how that phenomenon happened, I myself looked in awe at anything Apple, just where I live it was and is considered luxury stuff. I also had this indoctrination from stupid books and articles about Stephen Jobs being some genius and Apple being a good company and the underdog. Had a children’s book about computers with the semi-transparent colored plastic iMac and classic MacOS screenshots, and had seen an ad about the lamp-shaped iMac G5, liked that aesthetic, wanted that. Used QuickTime browser plugin under Windows 2000, and my dad had an iPod. By the time I’ve seen a Mac IRL Apple’s aesthetic mutated into some ugly crap I didn’t like. I still feel that awe in what others do with software like Hotline and KDX and other things that originated on Macs. Apple had a huge emotional capital. Unfortunately, it went the way it went.
iopq@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Intel thought the iPhone market was going to be too small so they didn’t agree to manufacture their CPUs
pdxfed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
While also completely missing the boat on the potential of graphics cards and watching Nvidia and even AMD become massively more relevant in recent years.
Cocopanda@futurology.today 4 weeks ago
They’re a cyber security firm now. Wild stuff.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think he felt right, but at the same time Blackberry wasn’t properly marketed.
And maybe having a touchscreen option would be good enough.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
to be fair i miss physical keyboards on phones. i wish we gave the space for it.
nl4real@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Same. Colossal pain in the ass.
kambusha@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Get yourself a RIMjob and help bring them back
al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
You could get a Bluetooth keyboard. Literally pick your size.
iopq@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You have to charge it separately, it’s not quite as convenient
Soggy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’d happily have a phone half an inch thicker if it meant a folding or sliding physical keyboard for my large hands.