I fucking hate corporate speak.
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SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Lol “Your Friends at Plex”
get fucked, assholes, Jellyfin is better anyway
Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Jellyfin is better anyway
I wish this were true, but as a multi-year Plex-to-Jellyfin migrant, I have to point out that Plex was the better software.
I still choose to run Jellyfin for other reasons (don’t like the commercial path Plex is taking, among others), but I still do miss the better reliability and larger feature set in the Plex software stack.
Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
[deleted]bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Good thing jellyfin is open source then.
69420@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s what Emby thought.
legion02@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Doesn’t jellyfin just not do this at all? Like if you want to stream remotely you need to figure out a vpn solution to do it?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Very easy:
Or
CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
“Very easy” assuming you aren’t trying to share with non-technical people or your elderly parents.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
I’ve walked them through using tailscale.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
Also Wireguard, which is what Tailscale uses.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Yeah, they both do. That’s a lot more manual though.
akilou@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Dude how the hell am I supposed to walk my mom through setting up tailscale on her Roku?
And what if you have multiple friends all sharing each others libraries?
This is not a feasible solution let alone a “very easy” one.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
I was thinking a computer! Multiple people can connect to your tailscale and jellyfin at once. That’s not so much an issue.
legion02@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Completely unreasonable to need to walk people through this. It’s OK to say jellyfin can’t do remote access.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Well, I never said it did out of the box. I was giving people the example of how I did it, in case they wanted an easy option for PCs. No offence meant, my friend.
semperverus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You can stream remotely via jellyfin if you expose your server to the internet. VPN is safer but not the only option.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Yeah, no way. Jellyfins Backend is like an open barn door. And with the kind of content most of us here offer through either Jellyfin or Plex, I wouldn’t want to open up like that.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Anecdotal but I’ve run Jellyfin publicly without any issues for around 5 years. It even has its own domain name.
Dave@lemmy.nz 4 weeks ago
Isn’t there an assumption it would be behind a reverse proxy… At least I hope that’s the assumption.
charles@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
You’re 100% correct. I always find it funny how hardcore some people are with jellyfin vs Plex. I’ll probably end up getting downvotes on this but imo Plex is way simpler to setup and keep running, and as a lifetime pass owner, I’ve very rarely felt like my experience has been deteriorated by any of the changes that the jellyfin crowd freaks out about. Plus plexamp is honestly such a great music player. I’ll happily keep running Plex for the foreseeable future.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ditto to all of this, except I don’t know anything about plexamp
charles@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
If you have music on your server, I’d strongly recommend checking it out. I believe it was started as a side project by the Plex devs and it’s a way better music player than the one built into the Plex apps.
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Plex is more polished, but I love Jellyfin’s subtitle search; it blows Plex’s socks away.
Also, Jellyfin doesn’t nag me every effing time to enable DRM in Firefox for some unfathomable reason.
But Plex definitely wins on performance, IMO.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 weeks ago
Set up Bazarr.
__ghost__@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
That’s correct
themachine@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That is not correct. A VPN would be one method but you can also just expose the service to the internet in a number of ways and accomplish the same thing Plex provides.
mobotsar@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
You probably shouldn’t just expose jellyfin to the internet quite yet though. There are some ongoing efforts to fix unauthenticated endpoint problems.
sudneo@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Not to be “achtuallying” bit VPN is not a way to remote stream, it’s a way to bring remote clients in the local network.
Likewise exposing services on the internet…not really going to happen esepcially for people - like me - that run plex/jellyfin on their NAS.
I don’t have a horse in this race, i don’t use remote streaming, I only ever streamed from my nas to my 2 TVs, and I am experimenting with jellyfin. But for those who do need remote streaming, jellyfin is going to be problematic.
__ghost__@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
That’s correct
logos@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I used a reverse proxy just fine.
CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Not necessarily a VPN but you’re 100% on your own for security. When i used to run Emby, I had a white-list IPs but this doesn’t work great since most ISPs rotate IPs over time and if you’re on wireless it could change all the time.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 weeks ago
Yeah a VPN isn’t “necessary”, but it’s the most straightforward way. Unfortunately it’s not really at all feasible for many people who currently play from other peoples plex libraries.
themachine@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
No. You have to expose your server to the internet in some way bit you don’t have to set up some sort of VPN. There are plenty of people who will tell you how awful of an idea it is but if you make smart choices it’s not a big deal.
sudneo@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Well, as an application it has a huge attack surface, it’s also able to download stuff from internet (e.g., subs) and many people run it on NAS. I run jellyfin in docker, I didn’t do a security assessment yet, but for sure it needs volume mounts, not sure about what capabilities it runs with (surely NET_BIND, and I think DAC_READ_SEARCH to avoid file ownership issues with downloaders?). Either way, I would never expose a service like that on the internet.
RaccoonBall@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
This is also true about Plex which must also be exposed to the internet
merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I use a non-rooted docker, reverse proxy, and cloudfare domain. I know Jellyfin has some API security issues but I’m still unconvinced that any of them can be used to escalate to any level that would threaten my server (or even my instance of Jellyfin).
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
They are not about escalating permissions but about unauthorized access to your library. As some living in a country with professional piracy lawyers, that go out and try to catch people in the act, I won’t open my server to that kind of risk.
I like Jellyfin being open source and all, but the maintainers made it clear that they prefer backwards compatibility with clients over fixing these issues.
merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Oh yeah I don’t buy the backwards compat stuff because you can version an API to preserve backwards compatibility to sensible ends.
I’d be very interested to see cases of streaming or copyright lawyers essentially hacking users to litigate them. The only stuff Ive ever seen on snooping by corps on pirates it’s usually collecting PII from public sources like torrent clients without VPN coverage.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Incorrect.