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• utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Linux is so difficult you guys, no one could possibly learn the command line.

  In the vast VAST majority of “normal” use cases, which I’d argue for most people it’s :

  • Web browsing
  • watching videos or listening to music
  • editing text documents, spreadsheets, presentations
  • playing video games
  • managing files, e.g. moving them in directories, compressing them, etc
  • keeping the system up to date
  • using a printer

  there are reliable ways to use a GUI. So… even though IMHO the command line is absolutely worth learning, one can perfectly use Linux my “just” clicking their way around.

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  • uniquethrowagay@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I work in IT (almost exclusively Windows) and have been using Linux on my private machines for 8 years now. I barely know anything about the command line. I don’t have to be a Linux nerd because it just works with the GUI. (KDE Plasma. Can’t speak for other DEs)

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    • mriormro@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I work in IT

      You are not a common user.

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      • vxx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        He doesnt use the command line

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      • cute_noker@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe he really sucks at his job

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  • techpir8@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wyland & Nvidia drivers work yet?

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    • utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Still using X11 as I’m on Debian stable but wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Wayland might help.

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• chaogomu@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve swapped back and forth between Linux and Windows a half dozen times now, and I can honestly say, both are a bitch to set up from a clean install.

  Even with guides and autoloading scripts and whatnot, it’s still going to be a few days of pain while you try to figure out what else needs to be installed to use the computer the way you want to use it.

  Or that’s how it works for me.

  I mostly just wish more games were linux native.

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  • mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    can you explain why it takes you that long to set up a new linux install? for me a fresh install with a (really not complex) script to install my required software and copying over config files takes maybe one hour (excluding game downloads of course).

    genuinely interested if your setup is that much more complex or where the difference comes from.

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    • chaogomu@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m counting game installations. Then there’s the fact that NoScript seems to reset every time I swap operating systems, so now I have to figure out what I’ve allowed and blocked before…

      Then there’s the pruning of random shit that was auto installed. Some of that shit can take days to find.

      But most of the pain is when I try to do X, and need to find a program that will do it. This happens in Windows and Linux, and either will have programs that work, but then I have to find the program and learn it, and then let enough time pass where I have to do it all over again.

      The most recent example was a map making program for my Table Top RPG obsession. One program that’s a go-to under Windows (with possible Linux capability?) is called AutoRealm. Which hasn’t updated since 2013… But it’s still one of the most powerful fractal mapping programs I’ve ever lightly used.

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• Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Orrrrrr, hear me out, just click once and get an online account because you don’t care.

  And yes, the command line is an issue to most regular users. My parents don’t grasp the concept of keyboard shortcuts for copying and pasting. I get a phone call every time they try to attach a file to an email, where they say the steps when they are doing it so they don’t fuck it up. If you use the computer to access a single webpage that’s bookmarked, youtube and ebay, maybe an hour every week at most, expecting them to have to learn a new system and a command line isn’t feasible. People like icons and clicking. If you managed to get rid of a keyboard and maintain functionality, they’d switch in a heartbeat. That’s why smartphones are so popular. That’s why kids preffer touchscreen over controller, and are basically unable to play keyboard and mouse anymore.

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  • amzd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you use the computer to access a single webpage that’s bookmarked, youtube and ebay, maybe an hour every week at most, expecting them to have to learn a new system and a command line isn’t feasible.

    You don’t need to access the command line (nor even the system really) to do browsing. The same browser you use on windows is gonna work on Linux.

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