Comment on YSK that in the US, denaturalization, the process of revoking a person's citizenship, does not require proof "Beyond reasonable doubt"

CidVicious@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I find it charming when people cite “international law” as if it’s really a thing.

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  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Laws are threats by those with power to enforce them. The UN will not threaten the US under any circumstance in any meaningful way. So for them to decide something is illegal is meaningless and, quite literally, of no consequence.

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    • BlackSheep@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Canada has been your best neighbour and ally for decades. We have backed you in wars, even when they were BS wars. Now YOU have attacked us with tariffs. YOU started this.

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      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I feel like there has to be some sort of misunderstanding here. Because I absolutely and abundantly agree, the tariffs are pointless, ridiculous and a giant stab in the Canadian back. All because our idiotic, racist turd of a president somehow got the idea that y’all would be part of the US. It’s ludicrous top to bottom and I’m sorry that our national disgrace is becoming your problem. I don’t agree with him, or his fascist supporters at all.

        But I’m not entirely sure how this relates to international law and stateless refugee tho?

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  • BlackSheep@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You need to read history. Read about the French and Russian revolutions. People DID do something! They stormed the government. They didn’t wait for “someone” to save them. They didn’t wait for other countries to “save them”.

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    • ECB@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m confused how you think that these two examples of internal uprisings are at all connected to some saying effectively “don’t count on international law to mean anything since there isn’t any body to enforce it”

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      • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        There are some dense, odd people on lemmy as well as any other online platform.

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I am genuinely confused how you think your stories about internal revolutions has anything to do with the idea of “international law” being a thing or not. If you want to go do a revolution, just go do a revolution, it’s very adjacent to the point being discussed here.

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Lol.

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• Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I wonder if the Trump administration would follow international law seeing how they’re openly defying court rules.

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  • FireTower@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    America and Americans broadly do not respect “international law” as an idea. We don’t vote for representatives in a UN House of Reps or UN Senate. And if we did why would we wish to be beholden to a majority rules vote when that majority combined might be inferior militarily.

    America tolerates international law when it doesn’t interfere with our course.

    The idea of a “one world government” is treated as a fringe tin hat conspiracy theory nonsense that no one is advocating for.

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  • CidVicious@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s certainly no guarantee.

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• drascus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Umm what is the international police going to come and arrest trump? Do you actually think anyone in this government gives a shit about international law?

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• Peck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  What law? Nobody cares about any international “laws” unless they can benefit from them and enforce them in some way.

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• AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Is the US administration aware that there are international laws? And if so does it care? It doesn’t seem to care much about the local ones.

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• endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  International law at worst is just gonna slap some sanctions on us, which is something the current admin is already doing every other day.

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• HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  what does international law say about taking over a few foreign countries and a canal or so?

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• diffusive@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Except that countries like Canada has laws that makes it possible to happen

  I would be curious to read a reference to that… not that any country cares just they history on how they agreed on something like that

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• GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  What law - Trump

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