Dam I thought it was just a thing boring white ppl say. Imma used that retort.
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MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoIt implies that for a man, sucking cock (a legitimate sexual act for any gender) is an insult because that would make him gay. So Homophobic.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Man, I love cocksuckers I’d get me one of those
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
its because hes submissive. its a power thing not a gay thing
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s still degrading to fellators.
And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
its still at the end of the day giving pleasure to another. giving the key word: power thing. its the same atmosphere as bootlicker
papertowels@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
If you think going down on someone is only a submissive act you haven’t gone down on someone long enough.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Being submissive in sex can be expressed in a blowjob, but so can being dominant. Most sexual acts can be both dominant and submissive under the right context. For example a person can forcibly (consensually) throw the other person down, pin them to the floor and start going down on them while not letting them orgasm. Is the person being overpowered and forced to be frustrate by not orgasming the one in power?
Your understanding of mutual respect and love is unhealthy if you compare going down on someone to bootlicking.
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Okay but like, in regular penis-in-vagina sex, the man is (theoretically) giving pleasure to the woman while also doing all the work. Is that still power play? Is pussyfucker the same as cocksucker?
Redfox8@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
So, if you were to replace ‘cocksucker’ with ‘towelhead’, slut, Yid, or Nig*** would that still just be a power thing?
Not that it actually makes a difference. This ‘power thing’ you refer to is controlling abuse for self interest. Introducing a predudice is just a way of trying to justify and/or hide the abuse.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
find me people who suck cock that actually give a fuck about other people calling people cocksuckers and we can talk.
And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.
nobody is arguing that sucking cock is submissive??? The argument is that being a cocksucker is a submissive thing.
Or you trolling? Or are you actually serious?
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He could have also said “vaginalicker” but he didn’t, he used a well known homophobic slur. Also, if he wanted to say submissive he could have used well known submissive insults.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
literally nobody says vaginalicker though? that’s just not the commonly understood variant of “cocksucker”
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
ok?
So what if i just argued that “cocksucker” just meant that you would suck someones cock if you got you something. I.E. you’re easily bribed/manipulated. As far as i know, that’s how most people use it.
That’s literally the implication like 99% of the time. If you wanted to insult someone for being gay, you would just call them a faggot or something lmao. No need to mince words at that point.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_(slang)#Cocksucker
Just learn a bit before bothering others with educating you. History matters, the way that this slur has been used historically and presently, is mostly homophobic.
Sorry for the short temper, this thread has been too long and I already explained this on another comment.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
to be clear, the wiki page you explicitly linked literally say it has a historical connotation, and the primary example it lists is from checks notes 53 years ago.
I’m going to hazard a guess that the sentiment has probably changed, a little bit. Since 1972. 1972 to be clear, was 8 years after the passing of the civil rights act. It’s a bit of a different time period now.
anyway point is, i’m not convinced anybody cares about using this as a homophobic slur anymore.
Sorry for the short temper, this thread has been too long and I already explained this on another comment.
it’s whatever, that’s how the internet is lol. This thread has been more than amusing for me thus far.
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Or you’re Swearingen from Deadwood.
rektdeckard@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think I know where he got his name now
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
imo the pejorative connotation of that word is (like many expressions of homophobia) ultimately rooted in misogyny
“always has been” meme with “wait, it’s all about maintaining the patriarchy?”