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KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks agowhat about it?
Comment on The consequences (of my actions) have been extreme
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks agowhat about it?
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It implies that for a man, sucking cock (a legitimate sexual act for any gender) is an insult because that would make him gay. So Homophobic.
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
imo the pejorative connotation of that word is (like many expressions of homophobia) ultimately rooted in misogyny
“always has been” meme with “wait, it’s all about maintaining the patriarchy?”
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Dam I thought it was just a thing boring white ppl say. Imma used that retort.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Man, I love cocksuckers I’d get me one of those
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
its because hes submissive. its a power thing not a gay thing
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s still degrading to fellators.
And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
its still at the end of the day giving pleasure to another. giving the key word: power thing. its the same atmosphere as bootlicker
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
find me people who suck cock that actually give a fuck about other people calling people cocksuckers and we can talk.
nobody is arguing that sucking cock is submissive??? The argument is that being a cocksucker is a submissive thing.
Or you trolling? Or are you actually serious?
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He could have also said “vaginalicker” but he didn’t, he used a well known homophobic slur. Also, if he wanted to say submissive he could have used well known submissive insults.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
literally nobody says vaginalicker though? that’s just not the commonly understood variant of “cocksucker”
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
ok?
So what if i just argued that “cocksucker” just meant that you would suck someones cock if you got you something. I.E. you’re easily bribed/manipulated. As far as i know, that’s how most people use it.
That’s literally the implication like 99% of the time. If you wanted to insult someone for being gay, you would just call them a faggot or something lmao. No need to mince words at that point.
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_(slang)#Cocksucker
Just learn a bit before bothering others with educating you. History matters, the way that this slur has been used historically and presently, is mostly homophobic.
Sorry for the short temper, this thread has been too long and I already explained this on another comment.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
to be clear, the wiki page you explicitly linked literally say it has a historical connotation, and the primary example it lists is from checks notes 53 years ago.
I’m going to hazard a guess that the sentiment has probably changed, a little bit. Since 1972. 1972 to be clear, was 8 years after the passing of the civil rights act. It’s a bit of a different time period now.
anyway point is, i’m not convinced anybody cares about using this as a homophobic slur anymore.
it’s whatever, that’s how the internet is lol. This thread has been more than amusing for me thus far.
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Or you’re Swearingen from Deadwood.
rektdeckard@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think I know where he got his name now