papertowels

@papertowels@mander.xyz

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Do you understand why folks are upset though?

  I have not had to look at the code for any other self-hosted application when considering whether or not to use it. You can say that this is a self-levied requirement due to the suspicions of vibe-coding, and I’d fully agree.

  I took a quick peek at your github profile, and you’ve been working on FOSS stuff before LLMs were a thing (thank you!), suggesting that you are more likely to actually know what you’re doing. However when you say you vibe-coded up an application, you’ve placed yourself in the same bucket as the vibe-coder who’s ai agent deleted a database despite being instructed that there was a code freeze. Yes, it was a developing product, and not prod, but yeah you’ve advertised that you use the same tools and techniques as this guy, which does not inspire confidence.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Am I correct that a few of you are mad that I included dockerfiles and docker compose examples in the repo? Where did I go wrong?

  No, we’re not upset about docker. Did you read the majority of my last comment?

  Correct. Saying you “vibe-coded” something up suggests that you didn’t do it yourself, or at least was only loosely invested in it. If you didn’t put much time into it, then it’s not as vetted for folks. Running your code on someones homelab is then akin to pushing the new grads vibe-coded refactor into prod, which I think we all know is a bad idea. The mitigation for that is for the user to vet the code themselves, which we already asserted earlier doesn’t really happen in practice. So we have two options, either push the vibe-coded refactor into prod, or acknowledge that we’ve introduced an additional requirement onto the users to vet the code themselves. Both are not ideal. I’m proposing that it is that friction that you’ve introduced that folks are upset about. The docker issue was just brought up as an example of what could go bad by running poorly vetted code on a machine.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Personally, whether or not this will be maintained in the future is the biggest reason why I’m unlikely to try this. If the main developer vibe-coded it up, then in my book there’s a lower chance that the codebase will be maintained in the future.

  If your response to “How will you maintain this?” is “nothing is owed”, it really cements the idea that this will not be maintained.

  If an application is unlikely to be maintained in the future, then the risk-reward ratio will rarely justify me incorporating it into my workflow.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  When you run a self-hosted application, do you first go through and read all the code? I don’t, I’ll tell you that. I’m going to assert that most folks don’t, and unless I hear otherwise I’ll assume you don’t read all the code for every self-hosted application you use.

  No one is complaining about Docker, they’re complaining about AI Correct. Saying you “vibe-coded” something up suggests that you didn’t do it yourself, or at least was only loosely invested in it. If you didn’t put much time into it, then it’s not as vetted for folks. Running your code on someones homelab is then akin to pushing the new grads vibe-coded refactor into prod, which I think we all know is a bad idea. The mitigation for that is for the user to vet the code themselves, which we already asserted earlier doesn’t really happen in practice. So we have two options, either push the vibe-coded refactor into prod, or acknowledge that we’ve introduced an additional requirement onto the users to vet the code themselves. The docker issue was just brought up as an example of what could go bad by running poorly vetted code on a machine.

  Also idk where you heard Docker is like giving root

  If I’m not looking through all the code, then as a user I’ll just be following your included instructions, of which the recommended method is to fire up docker-compose. If docker-compose bind mounted mounted /, my understanding is that the container now has default write-access to the entire host - am I mistaken?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩:

  I appreciate the spirit, but to shine some more light around the negativity you’re seeing in the comments, it’s a lot to ask for others to run your code on their machines. If you want folks to be running in docker, that’s oftentimes basically giving root access.

  If I’m giving root access, I’d at least want for the person who wrote the code to have a thorough understanding of what the code, which once again is running as root on my home network, is doing.

  The LastPass hack a few years back was enabled by a self-hoster running an outdated version of Plex on their personal machine. There is weight in choosing what software to run and support in your personal setup.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Landlords are parasites⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Agree. We have a few housing coops in town and I recommend them to everyone I know.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Landlords are parasites⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  That’s all well and good, but how likely is that to actually happen?

  The original commenters point was that corporate landlords are driven only by profit as they buy up rental property everywhere. Even preventing that is highly unlikely, if we’re being honest, but it is far more likely to happen than all rented houses being forcibly turned to rent to own contracts.

  We all want the same thing, but there’s a tradeoff between grandiose ideals and feasibility. It does not seem wrong to support pushes for less radical but more realistic methods of improving housing if your goal is to improve housing.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Landlords are parasites⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Worker owned coops equivalent for housing is a housing coop complex, which I believe is the most sustainable model of housing.

  However, I’m not sure how that would apply to single detached houses.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Landlords are parasites⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  both of them see reduced profits when minimum wages are increased

  But one doesn’t have to act in the shareholders best interest.

  My friends are renting in an apt from a mom and pop landlord who hasn’t raised the price in years - they roughly play half of what market price is at this point.

  So sure, the direction of Mom and pop landlords interests may be the same as a corporate landlords, but that are under much less pressure to leverage that.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Revolt became Stoat⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  The UI of the ones I’ve tried (schildichat, fluffy, element) felt very unintuitive to me. Spaces were really awkward because it was a different paradigm.

  I’m hoping that the familiarity of cinny will help with wider adoption.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Revolt became Stoat⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Gotcha that does match my impression.

  You’re right though, there’s value in it being a drop-in replacement for discord. Along those lines, I’m very excited for cinny, a matrix discord-like frontend. There’s a PR for voice calls that I check every now and then, the moment that goes in I’ll be trying to convince my friends to hop over.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Revolt became Stoat⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  “Riot” the old name of their webclient

  I mean, by that logic discord has a much more likely claim.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Revolt became Stoat⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Wait when I tested revolt a few months ago they definitely had voice channels - was that a beta feature?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Selfhosting Sunday! What's up?⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I think it was an older model of this one, but I’m not sure. Just a random amcrest I had lying around.

  It’s also worth pointing out that there are a few self-hosted solutions actually meant to act as baby monitors doing stuff like sleep/wake differentiation. I just had trouble getting one of them going and just thought screw it I’ll just use frigate and noise levels to detect crying sounds since he was older and hardier.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Selfhosting Sunday! What's up?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  A self hosting thing that I did after having a kid that’s helped us tremendously is hook up an internal camera to frigate to use as a baby monitor, and then have automations in home assistant to automatically change which parent gets notified about crying in the middle of the night based on an agreed-upon “shift”. Just a thought to consider :)

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Selfhosting Sunday! What's up?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Working on getting bazarr to work with Plex, turns out it still requires radarr/sonarr even if I don’t sail the seven seas. Guess I’ll be learning the entire stack tonight :)

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Jesus hates American "Christians"⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Are you just randomly hitting an edgy opinionated atheist soundboard over there lol.

  Say the line, Bart!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Jesus hates American "Christians"⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Right, let’s take Christ out of the discussions of Christ-ianity.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨How to set up a decentralized game/chat server⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Fair points, it is unfortunate that decentralized can mean self hosting your own service or hosting a service in a distributed fashion.

  The situation still could’ve been resolved without insulting someone who wanted to be helpful, but was maybe not careful.
  Or implying that their behavior reflects poorly on the entire blahaj community. That community don’t mean any harm.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨How to set up a decentralized game/chat server⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Read the rest of my post, asshole.

  This type of pointless snark

  Pot calling the kettle black here. Chill out, they were trying to help.

  You wrote a post with a title that their comment helps with, no need to be a jerk, and maybe consider more specific titles that capture your actual ask.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Immich mobile app sync V2⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  As someone who tried syncthing with their non-self hosting friends, let me tell you, that edit folder option is terrifying for the general public lol

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Immich mobile app sync V2⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I remember before, you could use crashplan to easily backup to a computer at a friend’s house and vice versa. Anyone know any similar tools? The biggest requirement would be that it’s easy enough to use that someone who doesn’t know what “self hosting” is can do it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨hyperbaric oxygen chamber⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Is society gonna get the funding to try all this shit on a scientifically relevant number of samples?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨hyperbaric oxygen chamber⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  IMMORTAN JOE

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  His DND character is a barbarian.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Lies, all lies⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I posted this in another comment, but the remix is a must-listen if you haven’t heard it before.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why I Ditched Spotify, and How I Set Up My Own Music Stack | LeshiCodes⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Yup, I don’t have an entire solution, just wanted to share a potential piece of the puzzle. I could’ve made that more clear as you pointed out

  Generally, on Lemmy if I get a single downvote within seconds of a negative reply it gives me the impression that whoever I’m talking to us an emotionally stunted toddler who can’t use their words to adequately describe their thoughts and need to do the digital version of throwing a fit. It gives some additional context on how to engage (or not) lol.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why I Ditched Spotify, and How I Set Up My Own Music Stack | LeshiCodes⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  I was addressing this part of what you said:

  Even if you have a vast collection of music you don’t know (by whatever means your get it), you still need the algorithms to pick the music that you’re likely to like.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why I Ditched Spotify, and How I Set Up My Own Music Stack | LeshiCodes⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  I believe plexamp will scan your library and will make the discovery-type playlist you’re looking for

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is there no good inexpensive CAD software?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Unfortunately I have no clue - my wife’s the one that uses this, not me haha.