Comment on Nobody Wants a Nazi Electric Car

doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• yuki2501@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh fuck off, bootlicker.

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  • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thanks for the civilized discussion. Have a nice day to you too.

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    • yuki2501@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Civility is what is demanded of the oppressed after the oppressors robbed, assaulted and threatened. No more. ✊

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• psivchaz@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I disagree. He’s done enough that calling him a Nazi feels accurate to me. Or at least enough of a Nazi sympathizer that I totally support not doing business with him.

  What I get frustrated by is justifying hurting the people that have his cars. Having a Tesla does not make one a Nazi sympathizer. You could maybe make the case that buying one today might, but even then I don’t think it’s justified attacking people for having a car.

  If you want to be an extremist about it, hurt the dealerships and the company. Don’t go after people who are almost certainly not that different from you. The people keying cars just want to feel smugly superior to someone and feel morally justified for being an asshole, they don’t want to make anything better for anyone. If that’s how you act, you’re just a fascist with a slightly different ideology.

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• ArchRecord@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Let’s look through your own Wikipedia link.

  Nazism […] [has] disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system.

  The union hating, multi-million dollar lobbying, vote-bribing billionaire totally supports actual democracy guys, trust me!

  Its beliefs include support for dictatorship

  He actively supports Trump’s unitary executive theory and related policy goals.

  antisemitism

  Elon supporting an antisemetic tweet

  anti-communism

  He blames communism for making his trans daughter mad at him

  anti-slavism

  He actively supports stopping aid to Ukrainians and ceding their land to Russia

  scientific racism

  white supremacy

  Nordicism

  Here’s him spreading scientific racism that claims people of European descent are superior

  homophobia

  Elon refuses to enforce Twitter’s policies against homophobia and transphobia

  ableism, and the use of eugenics

  Elon is a techno-eugenicist

  ultranationalism

  white supremacy

  He regularly promotes white nationalists online

  The only very few, specific categories I didn’t find any explicit mentions of him doing in my 10 minutes of searching around were anti-Romani sentiment and social darwinism, and you’d be hard pressed to prove that everyone you’d probably otherwise consider a Nazi throughout history believed every single possible bullet point in this Wikipedia page.

  If all this doesn’t make him a Nazi, then I don’t know what does.

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• pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Image

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  • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Man, you can really see Adolf saying “Sieg Heil!” Scary stuff.

    Not to mention the guy on the left.

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think I could do a better Nazi salute on purpose.

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      there’s 0% chance he didn’t practice in front of the mirror like a fucking dork

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• cynar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Musk isn’t a member of the Nazi party. He does hold a lot of important views in common with them, however. He also associates with people who fit most of the rest.

  What percentage do you think is needed before calling someone a Nazi?

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  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Saluting like a nazi is sufficient as far as I’m concerned.

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    • cynar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would personally add a small amount of slack for bad taste satire (we were all young idiots at some point), but basically agree. Any signs of the other points, and that slack is gone, however.

      I was mostly curious if the OP was acting in bad faith, or a useful idiot that could be reasoned with.

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• dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No evidence, except for that the entire first paragraph of that page describes his exact behavior. No need to be a bootlicker

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• Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  nazis didn’t exist, they were all confused autists making awkward gestures

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• ziggurat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I guess you could say the same about Hitler, since he didn’t personally kill any jews. If killing jews isn’t a requirement then there is definetly evidence that musk is a neo-nazi

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  • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seriously?

    This is exactly what this polarizing title intended to do. Attract people like you who relativise the atrocities Hitler has done. Populism is a bitch and you’re falling right for it.

    Just give me a informative article with normal title and stop filling Lemmy with all of this clickbaity populistic shit that helps nobody. I’m tired of it and tired of discussing it too.

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    • ziggurat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Relatively speaking, Hitler was one of the worst people to ever live! And the richest man alive today idolizes him.

      Imagine if Mansa Musa and Hitler teamed up! The world needs to not experience that!

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• GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Ignore your lying eyes.”

  Fuckin’ Nazi apologists.

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  • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No need to get personal. I’m open for a civilized discussion but not this.

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    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You don’t like being called a nazi apologist, don’t make excuses for nazis.

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    • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re not open to calling a Nazi a Nazi. Fuck you.

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    • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wwwaaahhh! Defending Nazis gets people to say man things to me!

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• uraniumcovid@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  yeah, no evidence other than spreading antisemitism on x and litterær fucking heiling /s

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  • Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    well, his family, too. theguardian.com/…/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid…

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  • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I legitimately didn’t know about that tweet. Can you share a source? I find a lot of articles but none of them quoting the content in full.

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    • throbbing_banjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fuck off with this sea-lioning bullshit. The Nazi salute and AFD promotion were intentional news.

      Seriously, what are you getting out of this? It’s like arguing the sky isn’t blue.

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      • Megamanexent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Its to move the Overton window. It is clear the Elon gave a “Roman” Nazi salute. There are forces trying to control the narrative. Gaslight. Obstruct. Project.

        Deny. Defend. Depose.

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