Defaulting to any one instance would be against the goals of federation, I think.
Comment on Defaults are crucial for good UX and getting more users on the Fediverse
0x01@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Default instances would go a long way, I know there’s a lot of hate for lemmy.world but defaulting to the biggest instance or a random one in the top 10 would help ease some of the early friction. Users can choose an instance later when they get more comfortable with the platform.
Federation is neat but the average person just wants to scroll and chat
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A geographically based default is a great idea.
Emperor@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I know I favour this, but I may be biased.
My main tip for picking an instance is go for a region or topic specific instance so your local feed is manageable and relevant.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37336391 (pinned on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com ), nowadays I basically go with:
" Lemmy has 47k monthly active users
https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency) https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU https://vger.app/settings/install if you want an app
Feel free if you have any questions"
AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I completely agree. People who have never had to do this before May not know what to pick and never sign up because of it.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37336391 (pinned on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com ), nowadays I basically go with:
" Lemmy has 47k monthly active users
- discuss.online if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
- sopuli.xyz if you want a server located in the EU
- vger.app/settings/install if you want an app
Feel free if you have any questions"
Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Default instances would go a long way
No, suggesting actual websites to people, rather than “Lemmy”, would go a long way.
Default instances result in centralization. In recreating the existing structures that, ostensibly, we’re all here to reject.
AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Once people are in the ecosystem it’s easy for them to move around, if eg. lemm.ee mods go on a powertrip it would be such a smooth transition for people to switch.
vinnymac@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I agree, a gateway drug is what we are looking for. Imagine trying to learn how to run before you learned how to walk. We are asking a lot of the masses if we want to see user growth here without a simple and easy to understand starting place.
I think the hardest concept for beginners to grok is that they can’t login with one account to all instances. If we were to improve the UX around that experience solely, we would see greater adoption.
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I’m going to disagree on this one, I’ve seem far too many comments, especially from LW users, along the lines of “I can’t be bothered to change websites because I’m already settled in.” Most people are attached to their posts and content and consider moving instance as “losing progress”. And the bigger an instance is the harder it’ll be to leave if they ever pull something seriously “power trippy” that could lock off content to some people.
AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It might be ideal to randomly default one of the top 10 instances
The user can still choose to not go with the default, it might also spread out users more.
Currently I think people just looks whats fhe biggest, and join that. Thats basically what I did because it was overwhelming to pick
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com has plenty of reports from power tripping mods on popular instances, those instances are still the most used
AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Fair, maybe we can randomly select one of the top 10 to suggest as default. 🤷♂️
Idk the best solution, we can do AB testing if needed
dmark3d@linux.community 2 months ago
So one thing I wonder is if there would be some way that when they are creating an account, for them to put some info in- mostly language spoken and maybe preferred country to start and it randomly selects a default general interest server. That might help onboard people easier without everyone joining one instance
Emperor@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Default instances would go a long way, I know there’s a lot of hate for lemmy.world but defaulting to the biggest instance or a random one in the top 10 would help ease some of the early friction.
I’d rather join-lemmy (and join-fediverse) were smarter.
Have a series of questions (for join-fediverse add “what service do you want?”):
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Where are you?
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What languages do you speak?
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Select your hobbies from the list below:
And it then spits out 2 or 3 instances.
It’s what I’d do if someone asked me directly for a recommendation and should be relatively easy to do.
As we say with someone posting a link to db0 on r/piracy, if you just say to people “this is the instance for you” and it seems relevant then they make the jump. I’m tempted to go to the main subs for Canada, Australia, the UK, etc and just post a link to the relevant instance.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Be ready to get your post removed for self promotion, and yourself banned. That’s what I noticed on most countries subs (except Australia I guess? !melbourne@aussie.zone still thriving everyday)
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Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Top 10 ( lemmy.fediverse.observer/list )
I made a more complete analysis in this post lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37336391 (pinned on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com ), nowadays I basically go with:
" Lemmy has 47k monthly active users
Feel free if you have any questions"
Because yes, the USA/EU question appeared during the Luigi announcement in LW.
joyjoy@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I would suggest something like phtn.app as an alternative desktop frontend (also has mobile view support)
AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
This looks so nice!!
dilroopgill@lemmy.world 2 months ago
thats very nice actually
crimeschneck@feddit.nl 2 months ago
I really don’t understand how this is actually a problem. It’s just “shit”, that’s very moderate profanity.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Some people are used to browse Reddit at work. Browsing a website with shit on it isn’t ideal.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
honestly when I joined I thought it was “shhh 🤫 it just works”
JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But it’s not serious and evokes images of a spotty teenager in a basement.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
An anarchist instance having strict rules is quite ironic.
ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 months ago
Does lemm.ee have as obvious a political stance?
Amanduh@lemm.ee 2 months ago
The only time I’ve seen my instance brought up in comments and whatnot is in discussions about how we don’t block any other instances. I’m out here rawdawgging all the propaganda baby
ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 months ago
Haha, I am too ;)
Microw@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Lemm.ee tries to be as middle-ground as possible and defederates from no “controversial” instances
JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What “obvious” political stance might that be?
To me, it’s “somewhere on the progressive side of the median” but I’m almost expecting you to say “fascist” or something, given the extent of America’s polarization.
Another thing: in popular communities the comments are coming from all over, so without keeping a mental tally of everyone’s usernames I find it’s getting quite hard to pin down any particular instance’s biases.
ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 months ago
Neoliberal is what I’m referring to.