Comment on Despite tech-savvy reputation, Gen Z falls behind in keyboard typing skills

• Pistcow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  *Mavis Beacon.

  Anyone responsible for the family IT services had to learn cmd.

  Also, the article reminds me of this

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  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’m thankful my father was so insistent on teaching me to type properly. At the time I was super annoyed at him putting a cardboard cutout over the keyboard so I couldn’t see keys. But touch typing has been a boon ever since, I doubt dad was prepping me for typing quickly mid-game but it sure is nice!

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    • Pistcow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      My dad was similar. Guess thats a good thing looking back. I’m going to teach my kid pivot tables so they can rule the world.

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• pandapoo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Pretty sure booting into DOS before loading Windows and playing the Oregon Trail on the Apple IIe both count as command line experience.

  I also think that as smug as a lot people feel about this, it doesn’t seem far off to think that physical keyboard typing skills could be substituted for efficiency with newer technologies, or refined versions of existing tech. At least in terms of performing most office job functions.

  I’m not saying it’ll be more efficient, or better, just that it wouldn’t be a surprising next step given the trends being discussed here.

  If that happens, I have no doubt that smugness will turn into self-righteous indignation and a stubborn refusal to abandon the tactile keyboard for older generations, myself included.

  I just hope that if that transition occurs during my lifetime, it’s an either-or situation, and not a replacement of the keyboard.

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  • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Key chording has always been faster than conventional single letter typing, and that tech has been around for a long time now in the form of stenography machines. Yet most people learn on a conventional keyboard because it’s simpler and more ubiquitous. This is true even now that chording has been adapted to programming and similar tasks.

    You have to remember we live in a world where most people don’t even know how to write properly, even those who do it as part of their job like doctors. If you draw letters by moving your fingers, you’re doing it wrong by the way. The actual proper technique involves using your shoulder, elbow, and wrist to do most of the work. We’ve known about this for centuries, and these techniques were designed with dip pens, quils, brush, and fountain pens in mind. The cheap ballpoint pen along with rather bad instructions from teachers has led to proper handwriting technique being forgotten, and causes problems like RSI in people who handwrite regularly.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Oh ball point pens. Last I heard one of the thing they do preserve in primary school over here is the good ole progression from pencil to fountain pen and sticking for that for the whole four years. Pencil because if you use too much force you break the thing without breaking it, it’s just annoying, and that’s the point, once they switch to fountain pens they’re not going to bend them.

      I am quite partial to ink rollers nowadays but still can’t stand ordinary ball points. They feel wrong.

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      • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Forcing children to do cursive was not really the point I am trying to make. Yes it’s technically more efficient to write that way, but it’s also considerably more complicated. Forcing children with disabilities to do it leads to all kinds of problems, and makes their writing less legible. I am more talking about techniques that avoid issues like RSI. If we are making children do things we should be teaching them the correct way to do it, not half assing it. While I think we should still teach cursive, I don’t think it should be mandatory. In fact I actually want to see more keyboard use with proper ten finger technique, as that is useful for the real world. Typing technique is also something schools love to neglect. It’s also better to give kids that option as even with better handwriting instruction some just do not have the required motor skills through no fault of their own. People like me were forced to do handwriting practice despite having significant coordination issues, and never being taught the right technique. Eventually I had to dog through obscure corners of the Internet to find out the right way. Situations like that should never be allowed to continue for as long as it did in my case. Either by actually teaching the right technique in the first place, or in cases where that doesn’t work by switching to typing instead.

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      • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I too think ball point pens are horrible. Fountain pens are not that expensive, last a lot longer as they are refillable, and just write better. There are some rather bad fountain pens out there though lol. Platinum Preppy is pretty much the gold standard for cheap pens under £10 or $10. Platinum plasir is a little more expensive but has a more durable body and cap made of metal using the same nib and feed as the preppy. You can also get disposable fountain pens now that aren’t half bad.

        Liquid ink roller balls are a good product too and are a nice middle ground between ball point and fountain pen. Although to be fair I wouldn’t be against a return to good old fashioned dip pens as these are the best for calligraphy and honestly look cool as heck in my opinion.

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  • Kadaj21@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Anyone else play Montezuma’s Revenge or that DOS King Kong game throwing explosive bananas after inputting stuff for height, angle, force?

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      You mean that inferior version of Scorched Earth?

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      • frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Scorched Earth is the mother of all games. Therefore, all games are inferior to Scorched Earth.

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      • Kadaj21@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Lol. I just went googling and it was Qbasic Gorrilas! Now that takes me back.

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  • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    AI powered keyboard let’s go. Honestly the amount of typing I’ve been able to cut out by just clicking the ai suggested replies in Teams instead of actually typing something out to respond to my coworkers is pretty high.

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• Kalysta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I learned mine playing a MUD

  You typed fast or you died.

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  • whostosay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    For me it was WoW back when it was more social and you had to communicate via text mid fights and whatnot

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    • subtext@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Definitely RuneScape that did it for me

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• willya@lemmyf.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  What about cl_gibcount 1000 in half life.

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