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EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Schools are allowed to exercise “reasonable” discresion

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  • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    free speech is above that shit. The school can’t infringe on that.

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      That’s not what free speech means.

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      • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Actually that is what free speech means

        FREE SPEECH. Curse words and vulgarity is included in that and the constitution is above any authority the school has

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    • remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Anyone can say anything they want at any time. What people forget is that words may come with consequences.

      Schools must have rules for a number of reasons, mainly because they are full of kids. Dress codes for schools apply across all students and must not discriminate. So, if a school has a rule that any words can’t be on shirts, no child can have words on their shirt.

      Here is a breakdown for you: www.freedomforum.org/school-dress-codes/

      What you are talking about has been in the courts a number of times.

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      • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Freedom of Speech is not freedom from the consequences of said speech.

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    • hime0321@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Well hate speech is free speech too. Schools don’t want to foster that behavior and so they can make and enforce policies to create the learning environment that they want. Also your argument works for bringing guns into schools too. The second amendment is above those school policies too.

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      • remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Minors have limited rights anyway, but mostly in the voting side of things. An adult is defined as someone who has reached the “age of majority”. After that, they are free to make adult decisions and be fully accountable for their actions.

        Schools are basically forced to accept responsibility for kids for a number of hours per day. As such, schools.mist create a safe environment for all students and maintain some kind of order and ensure the rights of other kids aren’t infringed.

        Me exercising my rights can never infringe on the rights of others. Many people don’t understand that.

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      A school if free to throw you off their premises for violating their rules too.

      They are not forced to give you a platform.

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    • felsiq@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Out of curiosity, would you say the same applies to putting nazi propaganda or violent gore on a shirt and wearing it in a school?

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      • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Even if I hate what someone has to say I think they should be allowed to say it

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    • brygphilomena@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      When a student goes to school, the school becomes in loco parentis and the student doesn’t have protection from school officials. Children, on campus, general do not have protection for free speech, protection from unreasonable searches or seizures, or really any of their rights.

      The school, acting as parents, can restrict their speech, search their bags, and confiscate contraband.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      no right is unlimited

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    • Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      That’s not what free speech means, a school can absolutely punish you for your speech

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    • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      They can, and they do all of the time

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