They are “regressives”.
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lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks agoconservatives aren’t conservative any more. they are radically backwards. the things they want are so far back, they don’t even want democracy any more. i don’t really have a say in that, but maybe the time has come to stop calling them conservative.
SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
derpgon@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I call them “degeneratives”. They are both degenerated, and want others to degenerate Atwell.
Disgracefulone@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
Atwell can’t be degenerated. his regeneration power is far too great (at least in the comics.). /s
kautau@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah there was a long time ago when conservatives voted to protect national parks. These aren’t those times
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Conservatives are exactly the same as they have always been. It’s just that conservatives define their priorities and their values and priorities around their identity, and that means their values and priorities shift with whatever is best for the conservative at the time. There are no universally conservative values, just the generic resistance to change things conservatives like. When a conservative benefits from a strong federal government, they support it. When a conservative benefits from abortion, they support it. When a conservative is a minority, or gay, or a woman, they support equalish rights for themselves. It’s narcissism wearing the cloak of stoic preservation of their “heritage,” and it’s always paper-thin.
This also means anyone opposing the conservative is not a member of the self, but a member of the other. The other is evil, because they are outside of the self. Anything the other does in opposition to the self is evil. An other could save a busload of nuns and kittens, and the conservative would complain about the traffic caused by the other. Anything the self does in support of the self is good. Lying, cheating, stealing, killing, raping, everything is on the table if it can be justified in support or defense of the self. From the outside of the self, it looks like hypocrisy, but it’s really not, because the conservative never truly holds an opinion. They just say what they need to say to win.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m conservative vs. most of lemmy and damned if I’ll vote anything but straight D right down to dogcatcher. I wouldn’t vote for an R even if I liked them! The message must be sent. Even if it’s a loss, your vote ends up as a percentage on a spreadsheet. It is still seen.
barsquid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. Dems are conservatives. Repubs are regressives.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s what the radical far left has been saying all along lol
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
i really wish more conservatives would accept this, or at the very least not back trump even a little bit, the dude who literally tried to overthrow the election, they throw so much bullshit at dems and dem controlled cities, but have literally no evidence other than “BUT BUT BLM” and “well, they’re taxes are higher” which is literally meaningless.
bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
I know, as a conservative I get everything I asked for in the 1990’s by voting mainstream Democrat now. The parties can change all they want, I vote my views.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Yeah sadly American has no left wing party, just a right and far right.
Naz@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That’s a hell of a vacuous argument. Would you rather get seen outside of a window or let into the store?
Nobody gives a shit about the non-voting numbers or third party ballots, if anything, their response is negative, not positive: They claim people aren’t exercising their right to vote, or that someone has “spoiled the election”.
Meanwhile, those aligned to parties are forming orderly queues and voting consistently.
Which strategy do you think is more effective, from a political science and historical perspective?