Stop telling these companies. Send them a fine, and cease and desist. That’s is. They know, they don’t care. Just charge them until they comply
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Submitted 10 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
BearGun@ttrpg.network 10 months ago
I mean yea, they will if the asshats continue. But it has to happen completely by the letter of the law, or they can protest and at the very least draw it out, if not just get out of it completely.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Too bad that i left its platforms due to it.
That said, i dont expect this to be their last exploit of user rights.
Its actually fairly fast reaction from EU considering they ok introduced their pay or ok model in November.
I dont believe that paying really was a viable option anyway, as they set the price so high but it could be interesting to see how many actually chose to pay!
designated_fridge@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I was close to it. I’m an advocate for paying for services I use. We’re way too used to getting everything for free and we should be willing to pay for services we appreciate.
Which made me realise that Facebook especially I don’t appreciate. So I quit instead. It had value to me once but those times are long gone.
lens17@feddit.de 10 months ago
What bugged me and ultimately drove me to leave Instagram was the wording. In the prompt, they said something along the lines of “we will not use your data for advertising”. And I thought, wtf, I don’t want you to collect my data in the first place.
essteeyou@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not aimed at the person I’m replying to specifically, but SUPPORT YOUR LEMMY INSTANCE. :-)
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It had value to me too. I lost a lot of my online social life due to it. I honestly also considered paying but not the ridiculously high price that they were asking. Further more, paying would not stop them from tracking me and it would still have them show me recommended content. Its only the actual ads that you get rid of, but you’d still be seeing recommended commercial content from pages that META thinks suit your purchasing pattern.
themurphy@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Comprehensive data is worth more for Meta, so my guess would be that the price model only existed to get users to consent.
Still interesting to see the numbers, yeah.
Plopp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I mean tracking exists because advertisers pay more for targeted ads, based on the tracking. I’d rather prefer it if the EU just made tracking illegal. Deal with the problem at its root.
Also maybe ban ads that track clicking on them (to then give a bigger payout). Advertisers should pay for simply showing me the ad and putting their brand/product in my brain.
And if we remove the option for targeted ads based on user tracking, the price for plain and simple old school ads might rise again, which is a very good thing for websites and users.Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 months ago
We have to be real here, that nobody has ever really consented to being tracked in the way these giant sites do it. Nobody has looked at that form and gone “I’m perfectly OK with 1698 different advertising agencies knowing my real name and interests, every time I’m online”
They go “yeah, whatever, get that popup the fuck out of my face so I can read this fascinating article about some 19 year-old pop star’s boob job”.
Part of it should be legislation. Another part should be browsers rendering fingerprinting to be completely ineffective.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Opinion: “Personalized ads” are a ruse and don’t actually work better than regular ads. They only have a higher click-through rate because they are more often disguised as normal content on the platform and people are simply being tricked into clicking on them.
amio@kbin.social 10 months ago
Ha! Get rekt, Meta.
itsralC@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Until a court rules in favour of this no one will budge as this is just an opinion. I do hope it comes to that as since Spain ruled that charging for not planting cookies was a okay browsing news sites has been miserable.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 10 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
It followed requests by the Dutch, Norwegian, and Hamburg Data Protection Authorities and complaints about Meta, the social media company that owns Facebook, WhatsApp, and Instagram.
“Most users consent to the processing in order to use a service, and they do not understand the full implications of their choices,” EDPB chair Anu Talus said in a statement.
But a Meta spokesperson said: "Last year, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that the subscriptions model is a legally valid way for companies to seek people’s consent for personalized advertising.
In November last year, privacy activist group noyb (None Of Your Business) filed a complaint with the Austrian data protection authority against Meta for introducing the subscription model.
At the time, Felix Mikolasch, data protection lawyer at noyb, said: "EU law requires that consent is the genuine free will of the user.
In February, consumer groups filed their own complaint to stop Meta giving EU users a “fake choice” between the subscription offer and consenting to being profiled and tracked via data collection.
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IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The EU is clueless. They think they are going to bypass the advertising model and that users are going to pay hundreds of dollars for all the services. They will continue to fall behind the US and China and they don’t have a plan. The is going to be backlash when news organization pull out just like Canada.
misk@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night, drenched in sweat, worrying that I don’t see as many ads as the Yanks do.
Undaunted@feddit.de 10 months ago
Oh yes please make Meta pull all their crap out of the EU. I can’t wait for it!
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’d be concerned when other services. Facebook is irrelevant in the larger policy push.
Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
lmao
rutellthesinful@kbin.social 10 months ago
tfw your national strategic reserve of facebook posts is depleted
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’ll be a service useful to you some day 🤷♂️
unphazed@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Serious question to Europeans: “How the hell did you get a group of people to actually give two fucks about you?” Seriously, here in the US even my goddamn local BOE is doing shady greedy shit. It’s all fucking corrupting so fast and without even a semblance of shame or privacy.
DdCno1@kbin.social 10 months ago
Very interesting. Lots of news websites are operating on a very similar principle, with the user having to either accept all cookies or pay for an expensive subscription that allows them to opt out of tracking cookies. I've always thought that this couldn't possibly be legal.
manucode@infosec.pub 10 months ago
If they just charged you for not showing you ads, that might be an alternative solution for monetisation, rather than the current model of charging you for not accepting cookies.
misk@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Media are paywalling content but Facebook doesn’t really produce anything other than their platform.