Rich Americans are getting second passports, citing risk of instability

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• return2ozma@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “The U.S. is still a great country, it’s still an amazing passport,” Volek told CNBC in a report published Wednesday morning. “But if I’m wealthy, I would like to hedge against levels of volatility and uncertainty.”

  After the rich screwed up everything, they just bounce now? SMH

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  • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    wait until you hear about how hedge funds work

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  • warmaster@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Buy land & properties for dirt cheap to sell and profit in the next Matrix reboot, while living in a nicer place.

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  • bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s why they’re all building rockets.

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  • AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’ve been building luxury bunker complexes in the most temperate, stable places like New Zealand for over a decade so they can cut and run when their con game runs out of legs and they can’t find any more suckers to make ego score line go up wheee on a decimated Earth.

    The owner class has known exactly what they’re doing for a long time, they just don’t care about anyone who isn’t them, and they’d rather see how high of an ego score they can get than to do what’s significantly harder: care about anyone else.

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    • InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      imma make a raft and bring my hammer and chisel

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  • FenrirIII@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Then we all fly overseas and find them, Taken style

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• mozz@mbin.grits.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Cyprus.

  Portugal, Malta, Greece and Italy

  I wanted to make a comment about, sounds like a tax shelter more than fearing instability. US passport is still gonna work worldwide unless something goes really wrong. Nobody's telling you you have to do something like this to have a home in Cyprus if shit's going down back home.

  And then I started thinking about it more. Yeah, I can see things going so badly wrong if Trump gets a second term that US banks back home won't be stable, US dollars won't be stable, US citizenship won't be the same opener of doors that it is right now, as of 5-10 years hence. I think this is unironically a very good idea. Not like it's GTFO time right now. But yeah, it's "let's make a contingency plan" time right now, if the US becomes neo-Russia for 20 or 30 years starting 2 or 3 years from now.

  Like if a wealthy businessman was in Germany in 1931, do you think they would have been sensible to start making plans for a new place to have a full home base that wasn't Germany? Yeah I think they would have. it makes sense to me.

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  • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The rich are the ones that are stoking the instability though. Decades of pushing to make bribes legal, government only working for the wealthy, growing inequality, and they’re surprised all of that is causing popular discontent.

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    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      "The rich" aren't a monolith. Some are neutral like MLK's favorite target the apathetic liberals, some are passively or actively working on funding things they think will help, and some are actively created (and are still creating) the breeding ground that led to the current apocalypse.

      But also, yes.

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  • weariedfae@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    NGL I was looking into what it would cost to buy residency abroad years ago. I have a career that is on the list for in demand skills some places that would make it a but easier.

    But also I am way too poor for that shit.

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  • whereisk@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The US passport will continue to work, the question is if you’d become a target because of it.

    Remember during the first Trump term all these stories of Americans in Europe pretending to be Canadians? You would want to distance yourself as far as possible from the idiot gang.

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    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In European colonies during World War 2, they absolutely rounded up German civilians to put in semi-prison as a potential threat, once it came to a big shooting war in Europe.

      Now I'm not saying that's exactly how it would play out under Thousand-Year Reich 2 Electric Boogaloo, but the point is that while the "people might associate me with the idiot gang" ship has already sailed under Bush 2 and under Trump, there are plenty of other more significant boats that haven't pushed out yet.

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  • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cyprus, Portugal, Malta, Greece, Italy

    This is the list of EU countries that~~ are selling passport~~ have a “Citizen by investment” program.

    I don’t think any of the rich buying a Cypriot passport is planning to move to Cyprus.

    They are just buying an passport that will allow them the move their business, money and maybe themselves in the European Union.

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How much does it cost? Asking for a friend…

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And then I started thinking about it more. Yeah, I can see things going so badly wrong if Trump gets a second term that US banks back home won’t be stable, US dollars won’t be stable, US citizenship won’t be the same opener of doors that it is right now, as of 5-10 years hence. I think this is unironically a very good idea. Not like it’s GTFO time right now. But yeah, it’s “let’s make a contingency plan” time right now, if the US becomes neo-Russia for 20 or 30 years starting 2 or 3 years from now.

    I’m not rich, but this is why I’ve been learning French (why French?) for several years now.

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• perviouslyiner@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  New Zealand sounds like “expecting the climate to collapse”, but Cyprus just sounds like Russian asset?

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