It Appears Users Are Getting Bored With TikTok

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• charonn0@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We’ve been covering many stories about a potential TikTok ban, including how unconstitutional it clearly is, how pointless it clearly is, and how even those who back it don’t seem to have a good explanation of why, beyond some vague handwaving about “China.”

  The bill isn’t nearly as bad as they want you to think. It bans companies in Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran from operating social media apps in US markets, forcing them to sell if they already do. These four countries are already restricted from accessing sensitive parts of the US economy, with forced sale being a legal option. Really, the only novel part of the bill is applying these kinds of restrictions to software.

  And the bill doesn’t actually punish or restrain users’ speech. It does restrain the social media company’s speech, but that may not be enough to overturn the bill on 1st amendment grounds. If you understand that social media exists to collect vast amounts of user data then you must also understand how the government has a legitimate interest in keeping that data out of an adversary’s hands. The only real question is whether the government has a compelling interest, because that’s the standard that a court would apply to this bill. And I daresay it might.

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  • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hate the amount of data American social media companies collect and what they do with it

    I REALLY hate having Chinese or Russian or [Insert Authoritarian Hostile Country] doing it.

    American companies do it for the pursuit of profits, Companies from these countries are doing it to topple our government or whatever.

    Something something the devil you know…

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    • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You do know that those mere profits are used to purchase whatever they want from the government, right?

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      this but the opposite, Chinese social media companies are taking my data for profit, American social media is doing it to topple the US government (also for profit)

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    • DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s profitable for the companies to sell it to the government… Basically just adds a step to the government getting it

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What if it becomes profitable to overthrow the government?

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  • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, it’s very clearly not unconstitutional.

    The constitution doesn’t grant jack shit for rights to enemy states.

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  • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While I agree - the part you’re missing is the vast majority of TikTok users are outside the United States.

    TikTok isn’t going to want to sell. They will want some sort of “independent” subsidiary. But the thing is, that’s already the current structure and the US isn’t happy with that.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they refuse to sell and wind up being banned.

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  • Quetzlcoatl@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Meanwhile the biggest nazi platform on earth is being run by a south african who is getting top secret defense contracts. Make it make sense.

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    • charonn0@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Musk’s companies are already based in the US. The issues you raise, however valid, are not really relevant to a discussion of this bill.

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The US government has a long and storied history of closing the gate after the horse has bolted.

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  • lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    just making sure it doesn’t come back 🤠

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  • Contend6248@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Politics going for worthless easy quick wins instead of lasting changes for the better has a history of it’s own.

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  • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I imagine, that’s most governments. The political pushback will be lessened a lot, if people lose interest, so then a block is more likely to go through.

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• agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  TikTok’s DAU growth rate has collapsed.

  That might as well be saturation. If you already have nearly 100% of the target demographic on your app, there’s not much room to grow.

  Also, that data is from some mobile analytics firm, how reliable are those numbers?

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  • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also, that data is from some mobile analytics firm, how reliable are those numbers?

    With all the data these damn companies vacuum up, it better be damn reliable, otherwise what is even the fucking point lmao

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    • agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We don’t know that. What are they even measuring? New installs? New accounts? What is a DAU? Opened the app this day? Engaged with the app? Looked at a notification? What is the measured user base? Can this population be called representative for the entire user base?

      Without detailed information about that, this kind of data is basically astrology.

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• CCF_100@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Good. That platform malware needs to die.

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• LifeOfChance@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  TikTok is just pushing advertisements and people who promote their shop. In-between you have 2 or 3 videos where it’s on of the few trends going around.

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• NataliePortland@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Okay, Biden

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• Mastengwe@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wait… so the platform everyone seems to hate a year ago because of the spying, that then became a beloved symbol of American freedom that needed to be protected from da guberment….

  Is now boring?

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• Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But since it’s illegal, it’s interesting again. /s

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