The extension shingami eyes is back.

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• cholesterol@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This seems like a dystopic tool for exerting social control. Better not step outside the lines, or the algorithm will make you the wrong color. Will this comment itself turn me red?

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  • PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a reporting system used by the community. It’s no different from getting banned by being toxic on the internet.

    Free speech doesn’t give others the right to put vulnerable people closer to genocide.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a reporting system used by the community.

      You know what ? I have absolutely no faith in the community when these arguments are discussed. I’ve seen too many often people labelled as “transphobic” or “nazist” by someone just because they were not agreeing with something or had different ideas.

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It is different, in that this doesn’t even mean anyone. It’s little different from just a group chat where people yell reach other “hey, this chick is a terf, you might wanna block her”

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    • cholesterol@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you have the ability, please flag me red in your system.

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My understanding is that it’s rather strict. You basically have to explicitly be transphobic, saying shit like “you will never be a woman” or “trans is just a fetish.” They don’t tag someone as harmful unless they actually say harmful things.

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    • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      IDK, I feel like I still feel like I don’t agree with this approach. In fact, the entire name about “shinigami eyes” makes me think it’s inspired by Death Note, an anime about a guy with a twisted and wrong sense of justice, using shinigami powers to kill people he thinks are bad.

      E.g.

      1. What if someone said things like this, had a conversation, then changed their opinion? Why should they have that struck against them forever?
      2. Things can be easily misinterpreted, especially online through text. Are they talking about “never being a biological woman”? Having a uterus? Something else? Gender? Maybe they don’t understand the difference. A lot of people don’t. Mistakes are the first step toward understanding. Maybe they didn’t understand something, or maybe they worded something ambiguously. It’s easy to do.

      I think if we want to change people for the better, than means talking with them, interacting with them, and helping them to change.

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    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d be interested in seeing this kind of setup - where volunteers tag others’ speech and account - actually work. So often, nearly all of the time, I’ve seen it used as political tools in small squabbles; totally inappropriate usage, and it’s hard to get those proverbial scarlet letters removed. I can only wish them the best.

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t trust it because so many people in the trans community tend to fly off the handle at any perceived slight against them. Can’t even ask them questions without being accused of acting in bad faith.

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    • gaifux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Interesting. Saying the truth is harmful sometimes. Would love to have seen Jesus’ tags

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  • chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the internet is just stuff on various computers, most of which are privately owned - imagine someone complaining that their free speech rights override your right to control your property, because you took down a note stuck to your door. “dystopic tool for social control” dude go meet your neighbors and make some connections that matter instead of worrying about forcing yourself onto as many strangers’ screens as possible. so fuckin dramatic.

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    • cholesterol@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I am fine with anyone blocking me. I absolutely agree that doesn’t somehow ‘infringe on my free speech’ or whatever. My concern was about self censorship, social pressures, enforcing taboo within communities that would use tools such as this. I think the real victims of labelling ‘good’ and ‘bad’ people by color will end up being the members of the very communities that embrace this kind of idea. It does absolutely remind me of an episode of Black Mirror. I think it’s a very ‘dark path’ kind of thing, whether people might find that dramatic or not.

      “go meet your neighbors and make some connections that matter” - is pretty condescending. My neighbours are nice. Danish woman and a Polish guy. But then again, I can’t see their ‘color’, so who really knows.

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• deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Never heard of that extension. Neat idea, but seems open to abuse by bad actors on both sides.

  Wish they said more about vetting reports.

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  • SharkAttak@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exactly, who determines which one you are?

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    • PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The community does.

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You do, by deciding whether or not to be transphobic. They give examples on their website

      It’s really hard to say stuff that would get you flagged unless you’re trying

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• DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I won't be impressed by this extension until it shows the user's remaining lifespan too

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  • LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, imagine you don’t read terms and conditions and end up with half of your remaining lifespan.

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  • PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Chances are if someone is marked red they’re likely to be antivaxx.

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    • gaifux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Whoa. How relevant and interesting to people

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• chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  ITT people worry their hate speech won’t be seen

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  • PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah free speech absolutists suck! Try criticizing their right wing ideas and watch them become hypocritical.

    Hate speech needs to be punished because it is the first step of dehumanization.

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    • chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i don’t think it even rises to the bar of a free speech issue, honestly. it’s akin to throwing a tantrum because someone took your jerkass note off the corkboard, it was a courtesy to let it stay there in the first place.

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  • casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    L take, only because you have people like u/awkwardtheturtle who like to brand anyone who disagrees with them as the public enemy. I haven’t read up on this extension in a couple years, but last I checked there was no safeguard from one user just going in and falsely flagging accounts. If they have something in place to reasonably prevent this, then my point might be mute. But if they don’t, then fuck em.

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Seems like you didn’t really read up on it considering the website says

      Is there a mechanism in place to prevent malicious/fake reports?

      Yes. While your overrides are immediately visible to you, changes are included in the publicly visible dataset only if they pass some trustworthiness criteria (including human validation).

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• Armand1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So much negativity in these comments.

  Having read the guidelines, I think they’re pretty reasonable.

  I’m sure it’s not perfect, but this could help people. A trans relative of mine has been mistreated by specific doctors, and being able to signal to others to stay away from these person could really help others.

  Right now, the worst that can happen is that someone is wrongly flagged and a small minority of people dislike them, but the good it can do is greater.

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  • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A trans relative of mine has been mistreated by specific doctors, and being able to signal to others to stay away from these person could really help others.

    I am sure that you understand that this sentence without any additional context means nothing.

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    • Armand1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought it was fairly clear, but I’ll elaborate.

      If a trans person is discriminated against by their doctor, then having a mechanism to warn other trans people away from that doctor so they don’t waste their time or go through unpleasant experiences would be useful.

      Same can be said of therapists etc.

      To be honest we should probably have a way of publicly rating medical professionals in general, regardless of whether you are trans or not, but trans people probably need it more than the average person.

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