Submitted 9 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fda-sleep-apnea-philips-recall-cpap/
FDA says 561 deaths tied to recalled Philips sleep apnea machines::Update from the Food and Drug Agency comes days after Philips said it would stop selling the devices in the U.S.
It’s weird they only stop selling them now, it’s been at least a year in France we know it kills people. I believe there is also a trial.
Why would Phillips remove them in France but keep selling them in the usa ?
Capitalism
Greed and lack of empathy, not capitalism.
But also they somehow thought they could get away with it in the usa when they declared themselves 2 years ago in France that the foam in their device gives cancer. I really can’t understand the logic, usa is the country of trial and lawyers, they knew they would get sued at some point.
Well fuck me. I’ve been using one of these things for nearly a decade.
Be happy, you helped make some people at Phillip richer.
In all seriousness, Phillip itself admitted the foam in their device can make headache, give toxicity and cancer. I’ve not been able to read the official declaration, only news report but if I was you I would check that because when the company itself admit it can give cancer, you know it’s bad.
More info is needed. Here ya go folks:
Philips recalled the following devices made between 2009 and April 26, 2021:
A-Series BiPAP A30 A-Series BiPAP A40 (ventilator) A-Series BiPAP Hybrid A30 A-Series BiPAP V30 Auto (ventilator) C-Series ASV (ventilator) C-Series S/T and AVAPS DreamStation DreamStation ASV DreamStation Go DreamStation ST, AVAPS Dorma 400 Dorma 500 E30 Garbin Plus, Aeris, LifeVent (ventilator) OmniLab Advanced+ REMstar SE Auto SystemOne ASV4 SystemOne (Q-Series) Trilogy 100 (ventilator) Trilogy 200 (ventilator)
Even cars from 30 years ago have better critical airflow separation than that… how badly did they fuck up the engineering to make it possible for housing components to get sucked into the intake?
Oh, it probably would have cost an additional $0.45 per unit to inject the housing in a different way that provides a hard barrier between the mechanicals and air intake…
Maybe more like $0.05. But yeah…
Well the extra half a cent of profit is worth the realized potential carnage. Oh well I guess, no one will go to jail anyway
I’m not sure, but your comment seems to imply an assumption that the foam was designed to be external to the air path and is getting unintentionally sucked in? That’s not the case, the foam is literally only inside an “air chamber” that the air directly travels through.
But how did they die?
Blows gas and pieces of foam into the airway. So it suffocates you when it’s supposed to stop you from suffocating basically.
Philips said it would stop selling the devices in the U.S
Lol wtf bro! Just stop selling it! Fuckers will now start selling in in 3rd world countries like China, India etc.
China is not a third world country
Oh really ? Damn i was there last year and no different that other 3rd world. Rampant poverty, shitty roads etc. Mind it , I was not living in the city , city is developed but same is the case for all 3rd world countries.
It is sort of by definition. Third world doesn’t actually mean poor or backward
I use another brand (Resmed) and pulled my old one apart to see what’s inside. They are well engineered - and they need to be, as they run 7-8 hours, every night. They also have quite a bit of soundproofing surounding the pump. Mine had spray expanding foam and the spongy seat padding type, but this is all outside the airflow. I suppose they could use foam inside the air tubes for further sound damping, but it seems a bit dumb as if any breaks off it will go straight up your nose.
Goddamn, I remember my old sleep doctor pushing the Philips but I wanted the Resmed. I never imagined that decision was so important.
Glad you’re still with us!
The FDA’s regulation or lack thereof is partially a horror show. Not just for this. But all sorts of implants and techniques get grandfathered in and lead to partially horrific results for people.
Oh I think it was Medical Devices: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) where I saw this. 4 year old.
Don’t buy their shit. They already made cancerous feeding bottles for babies, so…
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Food and Drug Administration says 561 deaths have been reported in connection to recalled Philips devices to treat obstructive sleep apnea and other breathing disorders.
The grim tally comes days after Philips said it would stop selling the machines in the U.S. in a settlement with the FDA and the Justice Department expected to cost roughly $400 million, the company disclosed in a regulatory filing.
The tentative agreement, which must be approved by a U.S. court, calls for the company to keep servicing apnea machines already being used while stopping to sell new ones until specific conditions are met.
Claims for financial losses related to the purchase, lease or rent of the recalled machines can be now be lodged in the wake of a proposed class-action settlement reached in September.
Claims for financial losses related to the purchase, lease or rent of the recalled devices can be made, with eligible users entitled to:
Roughly 30 million people have sleep apnea, a disorder in which one’s airways become blocked during rest, interrupting breathing, according to 2022 data from the American Medical Association.
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Rubbish summary. My first question was “how can a device that basically forces you to breathe, kill you?”
The Dutch medical device maker has recalled millions of the breathing machines amid reports they were blowing gas and pieces of foam into the airways of those using the devices.
Polyester-based polyurethane foam used in the devices to reduce sound and vibration can break down, with black pieces of foam or invisible chemicals that can be breathed in or swallowed by the person using the device. “These issues could potentially result in serious injury and require medical intervention to prevent permanent injury,” the FDA stated.
Wow, how can this have been an oversight? Let’s just blow a bunch of microplastics down everyone’s throat.
Does not even make sense from a business standpoint, if you kill your customers you won’t have customers.
They worked too well
fraksken@infosec.pub 9 months ago
cool. So the rest of the world can get stuffed.
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
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