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Mozilla 2023 Annual Report: CEO pay skyrockets, while Firefox Marketshare nosedives

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨redcalcium@lemmy.institute⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5053290/mozilla-2023-annual-report-ceo-pay-skyrockets-while-firefox-marketshare-nosedives

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A significant portion of this blog post is complaining about Mozilla’s repeated attempts to find new revenue streams that aren’t Firefox. It’s a sentiment I see a lot and I just don’t get it.

    They complain about Google paying to be the default search provider being a bad thing, and yet when Mozilla says “yeah, we hear ya, that’s why we’re trying to find stuff to diversify into” people cry and shout “you should be sticking to Firefox, why aren’t you focussing on Firefox??”

    Like, which is it? Do you want Mozilla to diversify and have a more sustainable revenue stream, or do you want them to focus on Firefox and commit to reliance on Google? Because maintaining a project as big as Firefox without any funding simply isn’t possible.

    I’m not sure that what these people want is at all realistic. Devs want to be paid for their work.

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    • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m okay with Mozilla trying to diversify their source of incomes, as long as it’s focused on privacy. Firefox Relay is a great example of a paid service that helps preserving some privacy and I gladly pay for it.

      I hope they’ll make more privacy-focused optional services like that.

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      • lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They’ve got some pretty interesting stuff in the pipeline, like container tabs optionally being hooked up to their own independent Mozilla VPN connection.

        IMO I think they’re going to go all in eventually offering a kind of “privacy ecosystem” similar to Proton

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      • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The privacy of… checks notes

        Category of Personal Information Collected Third Parties to Whom Personal Information is Sold/Shared
        browsing history Advertising partners, Service providers
        search history Advertising partners, Service providers
        your device’s precise location Advertising partners, Service providers
        a profile about a consumer Advertising partners, Service providers
        records of personal property, products or services purchased Advertising partners, Service providers

        Source: Mozilla

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    • sailingbythelee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good comment. I like the fact that Mozilla is branching out into Relay and VPN as subscription services. I’ve got to pay someone for VPN, after all, and email masking looks interesting. If the revenue from those kinds of useful subscriptions helps to sustain Firefox and it’s derivatives, so much the better.

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Like, which is it? Do you want Mozilla to diversify and have a more sustainable revenue stream, or do you want them to focus on Firefox

      Presumably these are different people.

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      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s the thing. They aren’t different people. Just people with unrealistic expectations.

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    • gens@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They get roughly as much in donations as they spend on ff dev. They get a LOT more from google, that they spend on… bs.

      …locals.com/…/firefox-money-investigating-the-biz…

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      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Of course they spend it on more than just Firefox. What part of “we’re trying to diversify” don’t you understand?

        And I’m sorry, Lunduke is not a trustable source. He went seriously off the deep end years ago.

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    • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It depends what “diversify” hides.

      Do you mean:

      • Work on ethical projects that don’t scrape user data
      • Stay away from trendy buzzwords like VR and AI

      Or do you mean

      • Buy a data-harvesting company along with all the private data it harvested
      • Inject the data-harvesting company’s code into your browser, along with some extra ads
      • Create a website content generator that’ll create soulless slop for SEO spammers?

      Because right now, Mozilla has chosen the second route. The anti-privacy, anti-ethical route.

      If Mozilla reaches the logical end state, will it even matter if they still exist? They’ll be soulless corporate trash too. There won’t be anything worth preserving.

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  • hoot@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How do rambling blog articles full of terrible assumptions and analysis like this get posted? Is there an alternative technology community I could sub to that cares about quality content?

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    • EatYouWell@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Amen. It would be nice to have posts on actual technology instead of business/financial news about technology companies, or what shitty CEOs are doing in their personal lives.

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    • LifeInOregon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is why I block users who share garbage after the first few times I notice it. For example, this will be the last post I see from OP.

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  • DJDarren@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Firefox Marketshare nosedives

    That can’t be true, literally everyone on the Fediverse uses Firefox.

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    • runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is for the year 2022. The reddit migration was 2023.

      Also the fediverse is less than 0.1% of social media market share.

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      • stooovie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There was also no reddit migration.

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    • EatYouWell@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The fediverse is not anywhere near large enough to stabilize those numbers.

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      • Gigan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think they were being sarcastic.

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      • R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think the joke is that not many people use the fediverse.

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    • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are dozens of us! DOZENS!

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  • psychothumbs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the real problem with these Silicon Valley fads like crypto and AI - they cause of tech executives to disinvest in their worthwhile products in an attempt to get on the bandwagon.

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    • flumph@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You mean you don’t see the synergy between Firefox and an AI landing page generator? /s

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  • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d like to have the same kind of bonuses when I don’t meet my KPIs

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    • alexdeathway@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What’s KPIs?

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      • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Key Performance Indexes, used mainly in performance reviews.

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  • Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll never understand how someone can get paid like that. If Mozilla was destroying the opposition, I’d get it though.

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    • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They have to pay that much to attract talent! The same talent that destroyed the other companies they worked for.

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  • Ganbat@lemmyonline.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Okay, so, good news for the CEO, but terrible news for the Internet as a whole. Awesome.

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  • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Brian Lunduke is one of the sketchiest, chuddiest, bottom-feeding troglodytes in the technology “news” sphere. I doubt he wants Mozilla to do anything but crash and burn.

    But he’s also right, and the fact he’s stuck his ugly pixelated avatar on top of publicly available Mozilla records does not make them any less correct.

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