Submitted 11 months ago by Marsupial@quokk.au to australia@aussie.zone
The officers issued him an official warning after determining his actions were not racially motivated.
Less than a year since introducing the law and it’s already been made useless. “oh there was nothing racial about the Nazi salute during a Nazi rally”, fucking acab.
He’s a 15yr old kid!
Can you only be racist at 18?
Likewise being a teen doesn’t change the bullshit excuse by the courts.
I think the thing being talked about a lot less is how the neo-nazi's who were marching weren't stopped from what the article says.
Right, why isn’t the article about the police stopping the literal neo-nazis marching in front of them instead of them traumatizing some kid?
They give a warning to a kid who saluted actual Nazis during a Nazi demonstration… What happened to the actual fucking Nazis demonstrating?
If we dont let our enemies have freedom of expression why should we have it. If he was explicitly calling for violence arrest him but an offensive hand guesture is just hurt feelings.
Oh woe is me, society is ruined when racists can’t freely spread hate.
Fuck off wanker.
First they came for the xyz, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a xyz.
And yes i get the historical context behind that funny how u can apply it to everyone.
The Third Reich started with exactly that ‘offensive hand gesture’.
It culminated in war and mass murder. Learn your fucking history.
So i draw the line before war, mass murder, and violance u obviously draw it before free expression.
The ideology of neo-liberalism is so fucking cursed. You don’t even understand how your own ideology functions and how you shut down leftists and allow fascism to grow.
I dislike nazis and would never do the nazi salute. I wish that other people wouldn’t do the nazi salute either. But some people are still going to do it. So the question because what do we do with those people. Do we a) Do nothing. Ignore them. b) Fine them c) Something else…
I see a lot of discussion over whether a or b is the best option, but I’d like to see more of what’s in category c. Is there anything that could change their mind? Can we send them to a counseling session? Get them to help out in a jewish community centre?
Stopping someone doing the salute is okay, but changing their mind is even better.
Imagine living in a police state.
Nazi Germany was, among other things, a police state.
Imagine that.
Gotta become the Nazis to protect yourself from the Nazis, right? What’s that quote?
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”—Friedrich Nietzsche
How you know it’s a failed rule is the Neo Nazis are still marching and the only who got in trouble is some random 15 year old.
Actually police states are a good thing
Sir, that is an unauthorized opinion. You’re under arrest.
rainynight65@feddit.de 11 months ago
Why the fuck do neo-nazis get to march through Ballarat (or any other place, really)?
LineNoise@kbin.social 11 months ago
Because Victoria Police will turn up to escort them.
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 11 months ago
They’re “escorting” them because they’re on shift. If they weren’t working they’d just be in the march.
rosymind@leminal.space 11 months ago
I’m not Australian, but…
If you let the baddies march, you can identify them later and tie them to the hate-crimes when they happen.
If I was the government, I would absolutely let people show me who they are. I’d rather know what I’m up against, how many, and who amonsgt them I can dig dirt up on
rainynight65@feddit.de 11 months ago
I… don’t even know where to start with this.
Also, this has fuckall to do with Australia. Fascists are marching everywhere. Do we really need a repeat of 1933-1945 before we learn our history lesson?