Submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.techspot.com/news/101086-amazon-strict-return-office-policy-pushing-more-employees.html
Amazon’s strict return-to-office policy is pushing more employees into quitting::undefined
I disagree with the layoff angle. Know who’s quitting? The talent that can find another WFH job. Know who’s staying?
OTOH, maybe Amazon’s big enough to survive the brain drain.
Amazon has always been hostile to it’s employees. The culture of “step up or fuck off” permeates the entire organization, from warehouses to executives.
They’ve even had meetings where they express worry over running out of a viable pool of people to hire from. Because they know they are abusive AF and working for them is miserable, so turnover is extremely high. At some point turnover could surpass a populations ability to absorb it.
This is known as The Dead Sea Effect.
Modern business is not exactly known for making smart long term choices, they see it as a way to easily trim the payroll to make this quarter’s books look better without thinking about what it’s going to do to future quarters.
I’ve been seeing companies left and right shooting themselves in the foot in the same way, it’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out
People are staying because the job market is currently cold, especially in tech right now. Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, etc are all on a hiring freeze or at least a very slow hiring rate.
However, you better bet that for the 3 days required by me, I’m only going into the office for only 2-4 hours. Showing up around 11/12 and leaving around 2/3. I’ll actually be able to work after I get home.
That’s kinda how I roll currently. Going to office is mainly to bullsh and chat with the peeps about current events and video games.
I can’t get shit done at the office. Way too much distraction
That is likely the point. It’s a stealth layoff.
Should have unionized first.
100% by design
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s the point…
Layoffs and firings hurt stock price and needs unemployment checks.
So they make it as shitty as possible, hoping people quit instead.
Never quit your job over shit like this. Refuse and make them fire you if they care that much.
You might even get a class action for unlawful termination later, we need to start treating corporations like how they treat people.
maniacal_gaff@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Never quit when a company intentionally makes your life shitty?
meco03211@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes. Being fired means almost nothing nowadays. Worst case scenario, they fire you with cause so you can’t collect unemployment. That puts you in the exact same situation as quitting. Once you decide you want to quit, just do the bare minimum while you job search.
dojan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If my workplace were to rescind the work from home stuff, I’d refuse to go to office and split my time between doing my actual job and shopping around for a new workplace.
Maalus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, until feasible, stay there. Do the absolute minimum. They want you to quit, since it makes it easier for them to avoid workers’ rights legislation
BeefPiano@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Strong disagree. It’s a lot easier to find a job when you have a job.
Odelay42@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but unfortunately the stock price soared at amzn after layoffs. Same thing happened at my old company. Only thing the market sees is the bottom line.
Also, the people quitting are the ones with a strong enough resume to get hired elsewhere.
Quiet quitting is an excellent option if you don’t care what your next job is, but the fully remote options are all getting filled quickly, and simply waiting to get fired just means you’ll be job hunting later in a potentially worse market, and going back to the office anyway.
Better to move up and out than just wait to be fired, in my opinion.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Stock prices are really not correlative. If the C-suite are chasing that high, you should go while you still can.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Except life’s too short as it is. Martyrs are forgotten. Just go, get a better job, don’t look back.
9 years and 2 days ago I clocked out of my job on a Friday, caught a plane, clocked in a new job 3000mi away on Monday. I was already working to secure the wages while my wife was showing the house.