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SteamOS will be coming to other handhelds before you can install it on your PC 'because right now, it's very, very tuned for Steam Deck' | PC Gamer

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https://www.pcgamer.com/steamos-on-handheld-pcs

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Listen, I would pay good money for an off the shelf console first computer that runs SteamOS, has as primary input a controller and an ARM or any other small form factor that fits under the TV. Freaking SteamMachines were a top notch idea, and Gabe should go for it again.

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    • Dasnap@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wouldn’t ARM cause a lot of compatibility issues?

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      • bitwolf@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It mostly works but you do get a small performance hit. Comparable to to the proton -> dx conversion.

        That said, games tend to hit the GPU much more than the CPU

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      • ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I run windows on ARM, no issues using x86-64 apps.

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    • snooggums@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sounds like you want a steam deck with a dock, or does that not fit under your TV?

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      • slackassassin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I had a random 3rd party usb dongle with hdmi and a port for power laying around. Gave it a shot, and it worked great.

        Pleasantly surprised. The only issue was that I had to use the deck specific buttons to do a few things.

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    • randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it’s worth checking out some diy alternatives that get the job done. I built my own “steam box” with some cheap Ali Express parts (Elsa 5700xt and Erying motherboard with core I9 equivalent engineering sample) to great success. The OS is key. I’ve found two that work very well:

      chimeraos.org (requires AMD GPU) github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/ (Works with Nvidia but it’s unstable using steam full screen at times)

      I’ve had a great level of success with ChimeraOS so far.

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    • TechAdmin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Would love a new Steam Machine and could actually be good this time. Proton didn’t exist when they released the original Steam Machines which limited you to linux ports of games. I had bought two but wiped & did clean installs of Windows 7 so we could play all the games wanted to.

      Before Proton, gaming on linux relied on native ports or WINE. Native ports were rare & not always better. WINE took some learning to make work well but I dunno, never got any good at it.

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      • LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I have a suspicion that they are making something. In an interview about the steam deck refresh one of the engineers mentioned how they couldn’t find an AMD apu that was efficient and powerful enough to warrant making a steam deck 2, he said not in this chassis anyway. Insinuating they know of one for a different chassis. Pinch of salt.

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      • havokdj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Even more rare was a port that was up to date with the windows branch if ever updated at all.

        Man I tell you, the early 2000’s was actually a great time for Linux gaming, it only really went downhill around the early 2010’s

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Check out ChimeraOS

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    • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just buy a video game console at that point.

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      • doppydrop@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean that is what he is asking for, but with the added benefit of doing whatever the hell we want with it too. Personally I’d be down for that too

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  • Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I guess this is a different SteamOS than the one that has been freely available for years?

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    • puttybrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think you’re talking about the really old version from the steam machines. The OS the Steam Deck uses (version 3.0+) is completely rebuilt and uses a different OS as a base (now using Arch instead of Debian)

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    • Quik@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think what’s meant is there isn’t an official ISO to download as it’s not yet that polished for PCs

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      • Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There used to be though. I have it on a DVD. SteamOS is much older than the SteamDeck.

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    • Goronmon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s available, but not really built or supported for standard desktop installation, at least as far as I know.

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    • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you mean the old Debian based one, yes. SteamOS 3+ is arch based and released with the steam deck. Valve said they’d release a version for desktops, but have yet to follow through.

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  • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seems like they won’t release it before it’s in a state where it’ll “just work” on about machine, which makes sense, since that’s the thing that helped the Steam Deck to success.

    To that end it’ll probably be a while before they can get there, particularly for machines with NVIDIA GPUs, assuming stuff like multi-monitor VRR and bug-free Wayland support is on the list of requirements.

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  • TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Coming to other handhelds” “very tuned of steam deck” Why are these conflicting things in the same headline?

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    • Goronmon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s tuned for specific a specific hardware platform right now. Choosing specific hardware platforms for support is just an extensions of that.

      However the “PC” platform is basically an amalgamation of any possible hardware combination that currently exists, and is a whole different target for a project like this.

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    • curiousaur@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s tuned to the architecture. AMD APUs.

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  • ares35@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    makes sense. each handheld represents a single platform and hardware config to target. PCs vary wildly in both hardware and software.

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  • Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Be very keen to see steam OS everywhere, there’s a vetted interest in valve getting this widely adopted (more devices running it means more eyes on steam and more potential sales)

    I’m keen to see the hardware variations device manufacturers come up with when they can just throw steam os on them and it all “just works”

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  • Dasnap@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bringus Studios champing at the bit to make more ghetto Steam Decks.

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  • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    im pretty sure steamos has been available for pc for quite some time now.

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    • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not exactly. There’s the old Debian based version and a user edited version of the deck’s recovery image. The latter gets you pretty close to the experience, but as with most arch based distros it’s not always a super user-friendly experience.

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      • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I was really more making a point about the title not saying update or something.

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  • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What will be first, dual boot support or PC install support?

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    • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You mean dual boot for the steam deck? Iirc the new OLED model will allow custom bios/firmware so that could be a possibility soon

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