Google emails revealing disagreements b/w Product and Advertising teams about manipulating search to drive ad revenue

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• theodewere@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Advertising team wants to find any way to make people search for as long and as often as possible (“increasing the journey length”) even if it means delivering less relevant search results.

  i now understand what i've been seeing a whole lot better.. any time marketing starts interacting directly with engineering, your tech company is in trouble..

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  • Nommer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And this is why I consider advertisers leeches. Anything to get more crap shoved in our faces no matter what it costs us, not them.

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• snowe@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well it sure does sound like advertising won doesn’t it. I completely stopped using Google it is so bad now.

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  • lemann@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Money talks ☹️

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• Marin_Rider@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  marketing is up there with the most useless, scummiest professions

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  • Womble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bill Hicks had the right idea.

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    • b00m@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      First thing that popped into my mind was his bit. thx for linking

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• Fades@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Advertising and marketing always get in the way of engineering

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  • stiephel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And legal/ compliance, too

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    • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Legal getting in the way of engineering is usually a very good thing.

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Constant minefield and multi-shift alliances.

      I lead web applications.

      Last year, I + legal team was in a war with ad team because they were whining about tracking during the CCPA rollout.

      This year, it’s me + ad vs legal team over them wanting to slap compliance notices everywhere that affects user experience.

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• Norgur@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I've decided to just pay Kagi for my search. I had completely forgotten how it feels to search somethingand actually find it

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  • PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have a question if you don’t mind, can you use the same account on multiple devices? I use 3 computers throughout the day and don’t want to pay 3x because is this.

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    • Maven@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I use it on my desktop, laptop, cell, and two TVs, you should be fine

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    • Norgur@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yep. No problem

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  • eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why not just use SearXNG? They basically do the same thing.

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  • Lamb@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use Ecosia with UBlock disabled. I get what I need and might single handedly solve deforestation.

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• Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  After reading all this stuff, I stopped advertising and have started going to independent sources for traffic. Advertising on podcasts has been fruitful.

  I’m kinda done advertising on social media and search. It all feels… ick

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  • slumberlust@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I believe podcast advertising is way down across the industry.

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    • Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, I see why, it’s the same audience. Your first ad run will be your biggest performer and it diminishes from there.

      You have to cast wider and be infrequent with your ads. It’s been a learning curve.

      There’s a lot of traffic out there to find but yeah, a lot of that traffic is from social and search, which gives you as an advertiser 3rd tier quality results.

      Having to get creative.

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• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Up next: should you cut off and eat your own limbs if you’re really hungry?

  No, I mean like, really hungry.

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  • cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The old saying is: “Cut off your nose to spite your face”

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  • PlexSheep@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Objectively speaking: it would higher your chances of survival.

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    • deur@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think the blood loss and infection risk may be a problem. I think they may have speculated about it in academia though, not sure what the outcome was.

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