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• Jumi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I just want a roof over everyone’s head and food on everyone’s plate and I dont give a fuck how we call it or how we get there as long as we get there.

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• Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  grabs popcorn

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• Speiser0@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “This is gold”

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• slickgoat@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Marx said that communism would evolve naturally with neighbour working with neighbour and community working with community. It also involved democracy by electing officials where necessary. He didn’t mention state control, so no, we have not remotely experienced communism.

  You might argue, even correctly, that communism is unworkable, but you can’t argue that humans have tried it in modern history and it failed.

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• Wrufieotnak@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean it seriously was never done. Even those autocratic parties that named themselves communist parties never said that they reached communism. It was always the goal to work towards.

  An easy to remember analogy is: communism is to socialism what the paradise is to Christianity.
  A holy land promised by some bearded guy, where everybody lives perfectly and no bad things happen. And since it is so perfect, we are justified in killing and subjugating everyone in order to bring them also to this promised land, they will come around when they reach it.

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• IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Was it a state?

  Yes?

  It was not communist

  Communist state is an oxymoron

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  • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Says the person who posted this in an anti-ML/anti-stalinist/anti-tankie comm. 1000065620

    If you knew that communism means a stateless, classless society, why do you ask crap like if mwog is becoming anticommunist?

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    • IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      https://lemmy.world/post/50386781

      “I hate communism because communists are delusional psychopaths”

      70+ upvotes

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    • IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      because in the post about “hating communism due to propaganda”, I saw a LOT of anticommunism

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• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is an undereducated, reductionist take if I’ve ever seen one.

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• DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You could argue that most pre-agricultural societies were ‘true communism.’

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  • terranoid@lemmy.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You either die to imperialism or live long enough to become one.

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    • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, Gaul was taken over by the Romans and Britania was invaded by, well, everybody, so I guess that’s true.

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• RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

  since the lemmy tankies love to quote fallacies so much

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  • slickgoat@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except Marx laid out specific conditions for communism and none have been met by regimes who claim the title.

    No person should use the name communism as a slur, and no person should claim to be a communist until they have at least read Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto.

    Both sides might just leave it alone.

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah, so the only real communism is marxism?

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  • IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like no true scotsman is one of the most misused fallacies

    x is not y because it claims to be y

    if I said that true scotsmen are from scotsland and/or their parent(s) are scottish, that is NOT a no true scotsman

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    • Archimedes@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You just made an enemy for life!

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