Meta faces permanent ban on targeted ads across Europe

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• WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Watch them cry foul, threaten to pull out, start a legal fight, then go nowhere like the abusive type they are.

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  • nicetriangle@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wish they would. It's fucking ridiculous that so much of Europe is apparently just ok with using a Meta product for the defacto texting platform (WhatsApp).

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Eh, it’s not like we started using it because it was Meta’s. They bought it when it was already popular, and switching everyone to something else is difficult.

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    • TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh, it’s Messenger in Hungary. Not that it’s any better, just saying.

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    • realharo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Better than the US, at least you are not forced to buy a specific device.

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    • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Meta is the cancer of the internet. The sooner they leave the better.

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    • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hate that Meta bought but I have to admit it is the best messaging app I have ever used for the last 10 years.

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  • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Watch them cry foul, threaten to pull out

    Ofc. But childish maneuvers are generally less effective in Europe where authorities are still authorities and not just the revenge actors with the bigger guns.

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    • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yep - and they’re too big a market to abandon, meaning they’ll just roll over in the end.

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• friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Meta’s practices also collected protected data like race, religion, and sexual orientation. Meta disputed that it needed explicit consent, arguing that agreeing to terms of service was enough, but courts rejected this.

  Oh please let this be the beginning of a global backlash against corporate EULA’s and the start of a path towards a few well understood EULA’s, similar to how we have a few well understood FOSS licenses.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And if you don’t read it they sew your mouth to someone’s ass

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• robocall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Cool

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  • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hwip

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• amio@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  [chuckles evilly in Norwegian]

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Høh høh

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    • amio@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well yes. Unfortunately that just reminds me of Beavis and Butthead so it's not really evil enough.

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• levi@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is awesome but I don’t really understand.

  The purported issue is that they don’t have explicit consent for some data points. They apparently responded by saying they were going to charge a subscription.

  Why wouldn’t they just get consent? I’m sure most fb users will just agree to anything put in front of them.

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  • Krapulaolut@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Facebook collects data from various sites and doesn’t care if you are a user or not.

    How can you get a consent from someone who doesn’t even know facebook collects data from?

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    • ra1d3n@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the funny thing. You don’t. It has to be informed consent. ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪

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  • MrOxiMoron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s about the part where they can’t hide the data collection in the terms and conditions of the site. You have to have a separate clear consent step for them to collect the data.

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  • kubica@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    However, regulators have questioned whether the prices are too high to give users a real choice.

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  • LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I bet there is something like what of they don’t consent? Then they have the choice to pay the subscription instead of being denied access to the site and therefore not make any money for Meta.

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  • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why wouldn’t they just get consent?

    That would mean to accept a possible ‘No’ as an answer. Something thoroughly new to them. They still prefer to continue without giving a damn.

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• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d just like to thank the EU for having the data privacy laws that I suspect most Americans want but can’t have because of the fact our country is owned by corporations

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  • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Honestly thinking this all week - pretty much every country in the world either voted yes or abstained on the Gaza/Israel ceasefire resolution, except for the U.S., who just coincidentally happens to have billions of dollars earmarked every year to go to Israel on the condition they spend it on arms from U.S. companies.

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• Tischkante@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’re already starting their paid ad-free $10 a month tiers for Europe only. They’ll stop showing advertising to underage people “for now”. They’re going to flood Europe with garbage ads and maximize subscribers that way.

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  • yoz@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can’t fathom people willing to pay $10 for Facebook and twitter .

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    • funktion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Addiction is a hell of a thing

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    • thethirdobject@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I know it’s a week-old thread, but I just received the notification on the Instagram app about the subscription and I have a few thoughts. First of all, here it’s actually 12 euros. As a relatively light user - I check Instagram maybe once or twice a day and FB once a week or every two weeks, just to keep in contact with people I don’t text -, that’s a lot of money to give to Meta for those services. I’m all for paying to have content without the tracking and the ads, but not 12 euros unfortunately. Which is, I guess, why they chose such a high price.

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    • ferralcat@monyet.cc ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They won’t. They’ll just sell their private data.

      As someone who tried to make a living caring about people’s privacy, people don’t care. The only time they pretend to is when they need to explain why they buy the new iphone pro model yearly (but they’d turn on a dime if apple said “we’re building an ad platform! Look how pretty our ads are!”)

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  • themurphy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hopefully they’ll do that, so people would stop using their platform and move to a less money-hungry unetichal alternative.

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    • pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What would the alternative be? A genuine question. I’m not a Facebook fan at all but here in Denmark so much is on Facebook. Announcements of the local playground, cafés, events, almost everyone uses messenger. It’s insane. And if it’s not on FB then it’s on Instagram.

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  • IndefiniteBen@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seems to be working for YouTube!

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• MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And Google? And Google?

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  • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And Amazon. Oh, and nowadays Microsoft has decided to join the club too.

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    • Xatolos@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • fruitdealer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Pretty much, Google is the targeted ad giant, not Facebook.

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• adam_b@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • amio@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Basically all of them. Lemmy etc. are basically 90%+ techies, Facebook is pretty much going to be widely hated here no matter where you go.

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    • adam_b@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Except for the thousands of hypocrites making bank by working for those companies.

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  • praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think it’s safe to say that lemmy is just a giant anti-[INSERT BIG TECH SHIT HERE] organization.

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    • Robaque@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      *disorganisation :D

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  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s just called Lemmy

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  • harrybo93@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Probably not- in these days of Lemmy the way is if you don’t see it, make it! :)

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  • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is there a gay neighborhood in San Francisco?

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• nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  a targeted advertising ban would kill just about every social media platform

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  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They could just run contextual ads for much less effort and privacy violations, and still get the same or better result.

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    • nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      why do you think that would get “the same or better result”?

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  • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nice

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  • artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good

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• erranto@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I will only believe it when I see it. It has been a few years since the EU is threatening a ban and meta threatening to leave the EU, so far none has committed any action.

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  • themurphy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    EU didn’t ban them because of GDPR because Meta complied.

    They will comply again, unfortunately. We could use a ban.

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• dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nice

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• UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Must be nice living in countries where the government works for humans instead of corporations.

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• Smacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can’t wait for Facebook to take the time and energy to make two different versions of their platform. One to adhere to the EU regulations, and the other for everyone else that harvests every last bit of data.

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• gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh, no, boo hoo!

  Lmao

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• SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • coffee_poops@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s still better than having data brokers monitor every single thing you do.

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