Demand to reverse Brexit hits ‘highest ever level’

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• mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Support for rejoin can be as high as it wants to be. The bottom line is that Sir Keir has ruled it out. It’s not happening. He doesn’t want to lose Labour Red Wall votes.

  I think people have to be realistic about these things. If they want to rejoin, vote for a party that will take us back in or at least are receptive of the idea of applying. That’s not Labour yet people want to vote for them. Pick your priorities.

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All well and good but with a FPTP system you cannot vote for what you want and expect to get it. If we had PR then that would be a different story.

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    • jellybreadracer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why Labour will never support pr.

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    • AcesFullOfKings@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • jellybreadracer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Sir”

    I am pro rejoin, but calling Keir sir in this statement is a bit too much unless you are being ironic.

    Also funnily enough my phone suggested that Keith as autocorrect for keir :)

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    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sir Keith. I like it!

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• Nurgle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sorry I’m American, but wouldn’t reverse Brexit just be Brentry??

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bre-entry, because they’ve already entered once.

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    • Default_Defect@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Breverse course and Bre-enter.

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    • spudwart@spudwart.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Breenter

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    • Elkenders@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bre-brentry? David Brentry?

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  • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Breturn?

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    • arbux@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bruturn

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  • mnoram@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No no, the reverse of Brexit is Tixerb.

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nop it would be BRilliant.

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  • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Breunification

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• calavera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t expect Britain to return to EU in the next 50 years or so.

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  • tintory@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Make it more like 10 to 20 years

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  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image

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    • calavera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hahaha, I can see you are a man of culture

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    • shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My body is ready? Can’t see the image

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• kaitco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Brea Culpa! This time, Britain gets to take up the Euro!

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  • ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s what I’ve been saying and always get people yelling at me. Ask two questions “do you want to rejoin the EU?” and “are you willing to adopt the Euro and Schengen zone?” will yield two drastically different results.

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    • abraxas@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As an American, I’d happily adopt the Euro and join the Schengen zone.

      Apparently, that’s not an option for us, though ;)

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not something that would bother me.

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• TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Quite a lot of people are on the fence though.

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s 37% of leave voters not of all voters.

    The poll, carried out by the Times, showed that 37% of Leave voters believe Brexit has a been a failure, with just 20% saying it a success and 35% sitting on the fence.

    Since the leave vote was 52% that is roughly half so 18% overall.

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    • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I was more thinking about the line on Tory voters at the end. 38% against, 22% for, leaving 40% on the fence.

      Although, typing it out I just realised I did the maths wrong in my head. I thought it was 50%. Either way, it’s still a large portion of people undecided.

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• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m guessing a significant[1] proportion would change their mind, when they see the kind of punitive conditions[2] the EU would probably impose on rejoining.

  [1] enough to change the result of the second referendum, so >10%.

  [2] worse than the previous ones.

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The reason we had such a deal was because we had restrictions for not being a member of the Schengen or the Euro zone. If we rejoined the EU then joining Schengen and the Euro would be a prerequisite. This is the same for all new members of the EU. There would be no punitive conditions as the EU is based on everyone being equal.

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    • Nougat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      B-b-b-ut if I don't get special treatment, I'm being punished!

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    • SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s ok, I’m sure Austria and The Netherlands will have UK’s back and just veto their Schengen joining ad infinitum for no apparent reason. As for the Euro, the UK can just pull a Sweden or purposefully maintain a highly variable exchange rate so as not to fulfill the requirements for joining the Eurozone.

      Alternatively, pull a Denmark and peg it to the Euro and do some voodoo with interest rates when it’s in danger of changing parity outside the agreed upon limits. (Not sure if this is what pre-Brexit UK did?)

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  • theinspectorst@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think you:

    a) misunderstand the EU's incentives here - if a genuine supermajority in the UK come back asking to be let in, EU leaders have an incentive to make that happen easily as a signal of the total failure of Brexit and hard-line euroscepticism - the optics of the UK returning would be so good for the EU; and

    b) overestimate the 'punitive' measures the EU could take - worst we would get is the sort of arrangement other EU states have such as hypothetical future euro membership that neither the UK nor rest of EU would have any more desire to implement than is the case for (e.g.) Poland or Hungary; they wouldn't even need us to join Schengen because that actually would create the Irish hard border that the EU negotiations were all about avoiding (since Ireland isn't a Schengen state).

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    • SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Isn’t Ireland not a Schengen state just because of the Common Travel Area with the UK?

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  • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Conditions wouldn’t be punitive (are you sure that’s what you meant?). They would be the same as for everyone else, with some wiggle room for negotiations of course.

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• Mchugho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m tired of this. I don’t care any more and have no desire to repeat 2016.

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• Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Reverse Brexit

  It doesn’t work that way. They have to apply for membership and go through the standard process. It’s not like they can snap their fingers and become a core member once again, until thr next populist leader starts threatening to leave again

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