Windows 12 May Require a Subscription

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• Kuro@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At this rate I’m gonna be on 10 for forever

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• narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I would happily subscribe to an operating system for a fair price, as long as it’s stable, compatible, has timely security updates and - and I highly doubt MS will do this one - without any bloat-, nag- or crapware. Make your default browser a browser, not a spying shopping coupon Bing AI mess. Let me choose the search engine the start menu uses (or use none at all), stop telling me to sign into OneDrive every chance you get, fuck off with your widgets, etc.

  If I pay, you have no business trying to fuck me over, Microsoft.

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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    i kinda get this now with Mint and patreon. secure os, managed application source for easy install/uninstall. fortunately, i dont require a ton of windows-only nonsense

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I want to pay for a Linux desktop

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• ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lmao!

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• Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ok and I’ll just crack it like I do with every other windows version.

  Once I paid $250 for Windows pro and a month later my licence key stopped working, and Microsoft didn’t do shit.

  I even bought it directly from them!

  Never paid money for Windows since.

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• dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  at this point is there even a reason to use windows? I genuinely want to know from windows users, why are you still on this operating system?

  for many years (since windows 8.1) I switched to using only linux (and at times macos), and I have never regretted my decision; what keeps you using this hellish platform?

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  • Calania@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because I use programs that only work well on windows, for example Solidworks

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    • dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      does solidworks not work under wine?

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  • Mistic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some windows-specific professional software that cannot run on Linux.

    Also, work-related stuff. I may be able to make a custom setup of Linux if I try hard enough, but when it comes to dealing with servers and VPNs it’s a bit beyond me. Not to mention the time it takes to figure it out and set up.

    Although, the more I hear about subscriptions from Microsoft the more I want to switch.

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  • Jestzer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Work. If I’m not making programs on Windows and not keeping up with the changes in Windows, then I’d be very distant from the customers I work with. I am absolutely not in a position to tell them to just switch.

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  • 0ddysseus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can’t manage to get any architecture software working so that’s a whole field, but they do have MacOS, so being rich bastards that’s a good option for them.

    My partner refuses to even look at it until there’s full version excel support. Anyone who uses excel in a business capacity can’t switch

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    • dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Anyone who uses excel in a business capacity can’t switch

      interesting, what features of excel are you missing in libreoffice, onlyoffice or cryppad?

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    • JAWNEHBOY@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is where I’m at; upper management has already greenlit moving all data to a OneLake Data Hub so the rank and file can try power bi instead of excel for everything. Suggesting moving away from their ecosystem at this point is moot

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  • SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Linux does not work with the Adobe Creative suite or Office365 Sharepoint and One Drive syncing.

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    • dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      adobe creative I get, I know plenty of people that are forced to use their products because of the stubbornness of other people they work with sharepoint I kinda get, I assume that your company is a windows-only shop? but one drive? why would anyone use one drive?

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can’t imagine this is entirely true. I bet they will charge for advanced features

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  • AccSwtch50@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    windowscentral.com/…/no-of-course-windows-12-wont…

    ?

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• bleepbloopbleep@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Good thing that not one OS is Windows in our household and workshop.

  There is literally no advantage in using Windows anymore for us.

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  • csolisr@communities.azkware.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Great for you! My only reasons to stay stuck with Windows are 1. anti-cheat and 2. niche programs that don’t work correctly under Linux because they use several Windows programs in daisy-chain

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    • euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Please do this microchumps

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• technologicalcaveman@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I donate to Gentoo every once in a while so I don't have to live this life.

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• nostradiel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fck them. Fck all subscription models. I ended every subscriptions which I was forced into apart from proton ecosystem which is worth 10$ monthly to me. Either I own it or go fck yourself.

  There ins no fcking way I’d pay monthly subscription for social networks… 🤣

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• TetHead@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  already on linux. The only reason i ever load windows is my capture card doesn’t work with linux yet (so like 2 times a month) this is how windows dies

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• IRQBreaker@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Laughing in Debian 12

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  • KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    meh debian is great as a server but needs a lot of work out of the box to be used as a desktop. Better off with mint if you want a great out of the box experience

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    • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I use Debian 12 daily as a desktop and its going great. Just select KDE or GNOME on install it just works.

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• lemmylommy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fair enough. Give me a clean windows without ads, auto installs from the store, telemetry and other data theft, Cortana/copilot/clippy, onedrive, edge, teams, Microsoft account and nag screens and I will gladly pay 1€ per month. Otherwise, Linux it is.

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• csolisr@communities.azkware.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wondering how will F2P games with anti-cheat react to the news. Knowing that much of their player base may jump ship to Linux to avoid the subscription fees, will they relent and start using less invasive anti-cheat programs, or will they try to adapt specific versions of Wine / Proton to work in rooted mode?

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think an optimistic view would be 1% of their users jump ship…until they see their game isn’t available and they jump back

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• LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ahoy Mateys 🏴‍☠️

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• Uniquitous@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Steamdeck ahoy, then. The only reason I have a Windows box at all is for gaming.

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  • Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If your games are running on the Steam Deck, they should run on Linux just as well :)

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    • Uniquitous@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      True enough. Did a little looking into that earlier today. Proton is pretty sweet.

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• GARlactic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll switch to fucking Apple before I pay a subscription for Windows.

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  • HafizMuhammad@mastodon.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    @GARlactic @billiam0202

    Or you can switch to Linux.

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    • GARlactic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No.

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    • strider@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, unless your work requires anything Adobe made in the last few years…

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• bappity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I dare them to try

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• HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They gotta be crazy to do this to consumer Windows, since it's been like, free for a lot of people now.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Except for Onedrive, office365 and your data

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• sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is it possible to invest in Linux?

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  • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I said invest, not donate! But thisnis also a good idea.

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  • bappity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    you can learn to code and submit a PR

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    • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I said invest, not donate! But this is also a good idea.

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• homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  BWahahahahaaaaaa! Ahhhh shoot that’s funny.

  That’s the most Microsoft thing ever.

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• doktorseven@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Please don’t make me go back to Linux. Linux has become an unusable clusterfuck of bugs, poorly implemented trash, and garbage over the last several years and after using it since the late 90s, I’ve recently decided to free myself from it because I couldn’t take it any more. I’ve accepted that Windows is the only OS that has itself together these days (fuck Apple and its trash, overpriced, hardware-tied OS, fuck the extremely limited ChromeOS, fuck NODRIVERS *BSD, and especially goddamn fuck horrible user interface crappy system mobile OSes), so if Microsoft makes some shit moves to make their OS unusable, I’m just going to throw all the computers in the trash and go live in the wilderness in a shack chopping wood.

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  • nyoooom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Linux has been becoming more and more beginner friendly for a few years now, almost everyone gets frustrated by Windows.

    The only reason Windows is big is because it’s the only computer OS where you can do gaming, other than that it sucks as much as the next OS.

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• frozencat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Id rather be a femboy then use subscription windows

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• lazynooblet@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can already purchase Windows through a subscription. Windows Business and Windows Enterprise are 365 subscription based editions.

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• RoseRose56@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I want to see MICROSOFT burning along with streaming services, not only for the subscriptions they want to offer, but because they think they can do what ever they want, and that we will say yes and hand them the money! (harsh I know) What they want to achieve with subscription idea? profit monthly ? make more money than before? Yet people can install linux, but in our side as linux users, we have to provide safe interaction in linux environment to new uers.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Too sad that there is not the Office suite for Linux because it’s really powerful
  (I do use Open and LibreOffice at work. Personally they are mostly worse in comparison.)

  Besides that I don’t have a high dependance except for games. And looking at my SteamDeck it’s not a high dependency.
  If Steam can solve the anticheat and maybe even releases SteamOS as a desktop distro it would be very tempting to switch if I can’t get anything else than a subscription or a free key.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In my use LibreOffice is superior

    No ribbon UI, better compatibility with .xls files, better python integration

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s very subjective topic but I (personally) think the ribbon menu is way better for usability and can be more easily customized if you don’t need some specific tool.

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• Kissaki@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Windows 12? Did they ever explicitly revoke the “Windows 10 will be the last”?

  I thought 11 was an exception die to the hardware requirements.

  But I guess any big enough change can be a new reason for the next.

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  • krakenx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Win10 support ends in 2025. It is not in fact the last version of Windows like they originally claimed.

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• Kepabar@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So there is already a thing with Windows 11 where you can, as part of a Microsoft 365 subscription, upgrade your Windows 11 machine from Pro to Enterprise.

  The idea of having the base OS be a subscription is really just a stones throw away.

  … but the Pro -> Ent activation process is really a PITA and often randomly PC’s will revert back to Pro after they’ve been ugpraded, so I guess we’ll have fun with that.

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• rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Microsoft can suck the juices out of my ass and thank me for it.

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• SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They should make everything subscription corporations cant have enough money.

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