Submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-john-grisham-openai-new-york-jodi-picoult-b2415340.html
John Grisham, George R.R. Martin and more authors sue OpenAI for copyright infringement::John Grisham, Jodi Picoult and George R
This probably won’t be successful. Enough time has passed that GRRM’s books moved into the public domain while we were waiting for Winds of Winter
Maybe AI can finally finish the series.
It would probably come up with something nonsensical and stupid like Dani goes nuts and destroys King’s Landing and Tyrion talks about how Bran has the most interesting story of all and should be king
This is going to keep happening until one side wins (I’m with the Authors 100% here)
AI is a complete legal gray area, and will continue to be until precedent is set. Nobody has found what is and isn’t allowed under copyright law yet, and unfortunately I’m pretty sure the judges ruling on this aren’t going to be completely informed
I am with the authors more like 80% here.
Authors read each others works and are influenced by them and we don’t expect them to go back and buy special licenses for each work that might have influenced their current novels. Art as much as any field stands on the shoulders of mice and giants alike. Pretending that AI language models shouldn’t “read” as many novels as possible to assist their own growth is a preposterous idea.
Should they have to buy a copy of the book like everyone else? Sure. Should they get bent over without lube by publishing companies? Well that is a bit more complex.
In my opinion there is no “right” answer right now. We as a society need to decide what we are okay with.
Furthermore, there are a lot of really good books out there that would be truly great “except”. Except what? That depends. Maybe it has annoying side characters, or maybe it is littered with plot holes, maybe there are outdated social norms that distract from the real point of the book, or maybe the fact that not one character in the book looks or talks like you and your friends.
It would be wonderful if we could use AI to adjust or even personalize those books.
Can you imagine a Harry Potter that isn’t just translated into other languages, but has each of the characters localized as well. Neither Harry Potter being British nor being male is fundamental to the story. There is no reason the French, Aria Potter couldn’t save the world through the power of her mother’s love, and with the help of her friends. Well except the fact that it would likely make JKR lose her mind, since she doesn’t even tolerate fan fiction.
Is it possible to make these changes now, sure? It just isn’t really practical for even really big name authors, much someone who only sells a few thousand copies of each book.
It’s actually not that hard to figure out. It’s not the same thing, but here’s an article by Kit Walsh, who’s a senior staff attorney at the EFF explains how image generators work within the law. The two aren’t exactly the same, but you can see how the concepts would apply. The EFF is a digital rights group who most recently won a historic case: border guards now need a warrant to search your phone.
I understand that authors and artists in a more general sense are very, very concerned. The problem is that this has nothing to do with AI. If I were to generate a story based on their work, I simply cannot distribute it without legal repurcusions. Doesn’t matter if I used AI or not. The problem lies, once again, at the publishers. They can churn out copy after copy using AI and abuse the artist in that regard. Something similar is happening with DC Fables and it’s creator(who in a gigachad move just threw the entire IP into the public domain).So what we need is copyright reform. Artists deserve to be paid adequately for their work and should be protected from being ‘impersonated’ by publishers using whatever means, not strictly AI. All these ban AI discussions miss the underlying point completely, being copyright reform. AI just sped up the proces 100 times.
Day late and dollar short. Nothing will keep the capitalists from moving to free labor and getting rid of humans in all professions.
getting rid of humans for most jobs is a good idea
as long as we have universal basic income and basically fully automated gay luxury space communism
How are people not seeing the other side of this.
AI gives regular people access to things in society that traditionally have been tools of the upper crust. Lower income families could use AI to develop meal planners, financial planners and even access simple medical and legal advice. It gives regular folk a pocket assistant. But let’s knee cap that ability because GRRM might not get his $5 because his work was 7 of the 1.3 million books among other things ingested.
Except the market. If the AI generated shit (and it does) then people won’t buy it
Are we just going to keep posting this changing which famous author is listed?
Probably, but it needs to happen. Even this stupid comment belongs to me. If you respond, that belongs to you.
I’m classically trained in machine learning. There’s not much different from what we did when I first started my career and now except for the quantity of data and the computing power that gpus have gotten us.
Hal 9000 from 1968 worked on a neural network. I’ve had to explain that a number of times.
Well if Georgy-boy would finish a book, maybe his job wouldn’t be on the line to a robot?
Fuckingcapitalists
Are you saying peoples intellectual property should be free range,
*Former author, George R.R Martin.
That mofo just been watching TV and playing videogames the past decade+.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Oh, so that’s what GRRM is doing instead of writing the next ASOIAF book!
But seriously, AI proponents seem to think it’s the Wild West and they can use whatever they want, for profit, with no repercussions…
pavnilschanda@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thinking about it, perhaps GRRM should’ve used AI as a sounding board in order to get his book finished much sooner.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 year ago
As much as I complain about his extreme slowness, I’d still rather get a book written 100% by GRRM! The computers can get their turn after he, me, you, and everyone else is dead…
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How exactly has OpenAI harmed GRRM? It’s not like you can ask it to output a free copy of an entire book.
FireTower@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If they used his works to train models without arranging proper licensing prior they’ve been unjustly enriched.