This is true and very underreported.
California’s New Bill Requires DOJ-Approved 3D Printers That Report on Themselves
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Beep@lemmus.org to technology@lemmy.world
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Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 2 weeks ago
apftwb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What are they going to do? Put IoT DRM in every stepper motor?
northernlights@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Some poor government employee is going to see loooots of dildos
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Easy solution. Sell a separate “motion platform” and an “FDM module” as distinct products that basically snap together.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s basically what we used to do before big printer came in :D
freshcow@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Already contacted my assembly person to oppose it. I get the intent behind it, but theres no way im going to ask the government for permission to use my own hardware.
I dont even own a 3D printer yet, but I wouldn’t want to be subject to such a bad and dumb law if and when that changes.Dultas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jokes on them. I already block my printer from talking outside the LAN.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This is such a reactionary way of making laws. Do better.
RalfWausE@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
You can build a weapon with common tools you find in any metal workshop.
Story time:
Right after the war my grandfather - a locksmith by profession - build a cap and ball revolver in his workshop just with the tools he had and scrap metal.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Wasn’t there a guy who built an AK-47 out of a shovel?
RalfWausE@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
THAT is a story i would be very curious to hear… but if you look at the whole stuff that is build in some huts or caves in the middle east, lets just say i wouldn’t rule it out.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Private workshop are next on the chopping block, then. Totally feasible. /s
skip0110@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
But….if someone sold a manually operated plastic extruder, that’s fine?
And if someone separately sold CAM software that’s fine too?
Just sayin’
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Fuuuq gotta buy a printer before this shit
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Just avoid Bambu. Everything you do goes through their servers.
solrize@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Oh boy, what’s a good not too expensive 3d printer to buy right now, preferably all FOSS? It hasn’t been on my short term shopping list but I figure if I’m ever likely to want one, better get it now. I remember the original RepRap. I think modern stuff is a lot better, but might have more closed source software.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Prusa or Qidi. Avoid Bambu.
solrize@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Thanks, that sounds good. I saw a Prusa review a while back that was positive, so that also weighs in favor. I will shop around.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You can still get an Ender 3 (essentially the end result of RepRap). Every vendor has their own.
That said? If you buy a printer in 2025 (let alone 2026) and it does not have an integrated enclosure, you are opening yourself up to a world of hurt. The price difference isn’t that much anymore and even just having a box to hold the waste heat in solves like 90% of print problems.
Bambu are, above and beyond, the best bang for your buck. They ALSO are ahead of the curve on locking things down to support only their networked slicers. Which… is a huge concern with stuff like this.
Personally? I love the Qidi printers. I have a Q1 something or another and convinced a friend to get a different model. They use a semi-open fork of Klipper so you can theoretically make something work when it is abandoned. Which is good because the various CoreXY printers are no longer all based on the same standard so part kits aren’t (easily) interchangeable. And, of course, you can use Orcaslicer or whatever else you want.
Keep in mind that is all FDM. For Resin (SLA?), the ship has already sailed and people are genuinely happy to run slicers with literal fucking ads in them. Assuming the vendor doesn’t lock them out of even that garbage.
solrize@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Thanks, yeah, I like the idea of an enclosed printer so that I can print outdoors and not get my living room full of fumes. Is that a reasonable thing to want to do?
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let’s entertain the thought. How would one identify what is a gun part being printed, and what is a tube, a mechanical latch, or whatever else. Heck, I printed a plastic replica of a movie prop once. Would that be illegal?
I mean, I’m not in the US, and I know how to drive three steppers according to a list of extremely basic instructions that never ever represent anything “final part-y” looking, but the question remains. How do we go from “lots of gcode” to “yep, that’s definitely illegal” without saying that everything is illegal?
Eximius@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ever heard of the EURion constellation?
This is the same, just an additional dimension.
“Markus Kuhn, who uncovered the pattern on the 10-euro banknote in early 2002 while experimenting with a Xerox colour photocopier that refused to reproduce banknotes.[2] The pattern has never been mentioned officially; Kuhn named it the EURion constellation as it resembled the astronomical Orion constellation, and EUR is the ISO 4217 designation of the euro currency.[3]”
It would seem governments always poke into corporations for debatable “safety”. Even if they don’t say it.
You can of course build your own printer from stepper motors and belts. Good luck, see you in a year. Also 3d printing in general has improved lightyears, so it’s becoming a decent-sized corpo thing => tools becoming scrutinized by government vogons.
Eximius@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Additional note: Since 2003, image editors such as Adobe Photoshop CS or PaintShop Pro 8 refuse to print banknotes. According to Wired.com, the banknote detection code in these applications, called the Counterfeit Deterrence System (CDS), was designed by the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group and supplied to companies such as Adobe as a binary module.[13]
Everybody with Photoshop / Paintshop pro literally has an unexplained (likely uninvestigated) government binary blob that might be a backdoor :D
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s… not applicable here. Like, at all. To reproduce a printed document, you input it. To make a 3D print, you produce tailored list of operations depending on many, many settings. Usually, the file that reach the printer have little in the way of knowing what is printed, aside from expensive reconstruction that would only give the general shape, if even that. And even if you can send actual 3D model files to a printer that would do the slicing locally, there’s no “absolutely required” fingerprint there. A tube is a tube.
And, just so you know, there’s a slew of public printers and scanners that will just plain not recognize any of this, too. There’s also some “protection” pattern in some official document; large office printers would choke on them, where a home scanner was fine. This is, at best, only enforceable in the flimsiest of ways.