We made a Fediverse community on Fluxer

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• Seefern@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think Stoat is the better option tbh, no tier pricing models for more features and they don’t ask for any info like a birthday etc.

  fluxer has those issue plus:

  One thing that worries me a little about fluxer is this:
  
      Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms. This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesn’t create a separate “enterprise edition”. It’s still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses. - https://blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/
  
  They have a CLA on contributions. So while today Fluxer is licensed as AGPLv3, tomorrow they can pull the rug and change the license, just like everyone else has been doing.
  

  https://piefed.social/c/pcgaming/p/1787103/discord-keeps-walking-into-rakes-but-teamspeak-is-thriving-after-incredible-surge-of-ne#replies

  Stoat is purely open source and donations driven. Just need an email address to sign up and you’re good to go.

  Best that we invest into an option now that is more decentralized and community based so we don’t have another discord situation a few years down the line.

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  • Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I would really like to read the CLA, but this:

    However, any distributed version that includes your contribution remains properly licensed under the project license(s) that applied when you contributed.

    Seems like a green flag. If followed through in the CLA, it means that any version released under AGPLv3, that contains any contributions, will remain under AGPLv3. So in theory Fluxer could at some point change the license, but everything up until then would remain free and open source and available to, for example, continue a similar project. Furthermore, as long as the code contains contributions that were made during the AGPLv3 days the code will remain under AGPLv3.

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Stoat have ruled out federation.

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    • Seefern@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Has fluxer indicated they are considering federation? Also, I don’t feel like federation is the only path forward.

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  • sam@piefed.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Having the pricing model upfront is a good thing. Running these services costs money, and I’d rather know what their plan is now than be surprised in the future.

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    • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Idk how the pricing model works down the line when federation is active, but yeah.

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  • super_user_do@feddit.it ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Really fair point, but I think some compromises are necessary to keep the project financially sustainable. Stoat is incomplete, it’s not federated and has shady development practices. Also, vc barely works and it’s unreliable as heck

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    • Seefern@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      they’re vc backed? that is offputting.

      also whats this about shady dev practices? I haven’t heard about that!

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• themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I was hoping for a decentralized version of discord ever since they started requiring phone numbers.

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  • vogi@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We really do be needing a fancy xmpp client with voip with mumble or something else. Especially if https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0503.html gets stable and implemented. I do not use xmpp, but I dont understand why it does not get the same love matrix or even irc gets. (in terms of being an alternative)

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• Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is Fluxer US based though?

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  • M137@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, why ask this instead of just looking it up? It’s Swedish.

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thank you

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