HP reportedly eyes Chinese suppliers for DRAM as global shortage sparks shake-up — analyst says memory chips are commodities that can easily be replaced

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• mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There is no chip shortage. There are plenty of chips they’re just not being sold to consumers.

  This is an important distinction.

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  • FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Shortage means supply doesnt meet demands, which is true. AI giants are gobbling up the available supply leaving us lower paying customers without any

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    • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Once again there is no shortage. My local microcenter center has hundreds of bundles in stock. They’re just super expensive because posts like this keep saying they’re a shortage.

      There is no ram shortage. There was never a ram shortage.

      One company decided to not sell consumer ram anymore and the collective world lost their minds.

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  • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    When demand is higher than supply, that’s a shortage

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    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Is demand actually higher than supply? This is all from future orders to be plugged into data centers that don’t exist, that needs power that doesn’t exist to earn a profit from a product that doesn’t have profits that exist.

      If I take out a 20B loan to buy all Pokemon cards on the market with an agreement to buy 95% of all future cards made for the next few years and use the Pokémon cards as an asset to secure the loan did I single handedly drive up demand for the foreseeable future even if there is no proof I will make good on the deal?

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    • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yes. But the supply exists. I’m telling you, you can get ram readily. No one is sold out of it.

      eBay is bursting with ram. Microcenter is fully stocked. Computers are selling steady.

      There is no ram shortage! Its just expensive because people are saying there’s a shortage!

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• 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Although CXMT is accused of stealing technology from Samsung to build its first DDR5 chips, the limited global memory supply could lead desperate companies to overlook this and buy memory chips from the company.

  Samsung, Apple, et al have stolen from each other at every turn from everyone and with no consequence. Who gaf that this Chinese company did it, too?

  After all, most end users wouldn’t care where the memory chips in their laptops and pre-built PCs come from, as long as they perform well and are competitively fairly priced

  Fixed it.

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  • Grass@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    As long as we don’t get a ram version of the whole capacitor fiasco from the gen 1 xbox days

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    • fonix232@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Fortunately bad quality DRAM can be found out much quicker than bad quality capacitors.

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Lol that’s a fair point

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• Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The paranoid in me wonders though… can DRAM be backdoored? I’d bet ‘yes’, and this would be a perfect opening to introduce a huge amount of compromised hardware to the world market…

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m sure it can, like any component. But we’re all running computers full of chips from American companies, and the USA isn’t any more trustworthy.

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  • fonix232@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not really. DRAM at its core is not even useful without a controller that actually provides managed access to it. Any backdoor would need to be either in the controller or a layer above for it to be functional. And controllers aren't the issue, DRAM chips are.

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  • blady_blah@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Anything can be backdoor… In, but I’m really struggling to see how you could do something useful with a dram chip. In theory, if it were smart enough, it could analyze the data that’s being stored and manipulated in some way, but there’s no way a dram module would have the processing power and brains to do anything useful with this. And memory manipulation would be about the most it could accomplish because the dram modules themselves don’t have signal lines that can control anything. They basically have data alliance address lines, return lines, power ground and control circuitry. They can’t affect the rest of the motherboard/ computer other than subverting data… And computers tend to be pretty good at catching memory that doesn’t store data properly.

    If you tried hard enough, you could figure out a scenario where this could work, but I don’t think this is something we really need to worry about.

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• BlackLaZoR@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  China: I'm sorry but your sanctions don't allow.

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• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The way I see it, if you want to play video games you will have to be happy with cloud gaming slop or buy some obscure GPUs, SSDs and RAM from Chinese companies you have never heard of. The days of Nvidia and AMD for end consumer products are soon over. They don‘t care about us. I hate this development but it is what it is.

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  • kurikai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    just play older games. they are usually better anyway

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’re not really thinking this through, are you? Your old hardware will deteriorate eventually. And believe me keeping an Oldtimer up running becomes increasingly expensive with fewer and fewer spare parts.

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If the Americans didn’t cockblock everyone they wouldn’t be companies you’ve never heard of.

    Atleast the Chinese company wants people to want its products where apparently western companies don’t give a fuck about users only other companies.

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• LorIps@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Comrade Xi, save my people from capitalist oppression!

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• humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This is important for all of us. But, it will definitely boost Chinese chip manufacturing if prices are awesome even if they need to improve yields.

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