Windows 11 25H2 Includes a Faster NVMe Driver Needing Manual Installation

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• kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hmmm. The NVMe standard has existed since 2011, and Samsung released their first commercially-available drive with it in 2013. So Microsoft has had at least 12 years to make nvmedisk.sys the standard driver for these disks.

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  • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Using this driver, however, is fraught with risks. Not all NVMe SSDs support it, and if incompatible, it could break Windows 11 boot.

    Probably why it isn’t standard, especially since there’s a driver that does work even if it’s suboptimal.

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    • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And obviously, there’s been no possible way to try loading the modern driver and if that fails, falling back to the legacy one.

      This is once again Microsoft refusing to improve performance, because that doesn’t directly increase profits.

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    • DokPsy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If only there was a way to do a check for compatibility on the os side for a standard that has been available since before the predecessor os was released and fall back to the older driver if it fails

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    • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So they can’t just write some probe code? It really can’t be that hard to determine if there’s support.

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• FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’d be wary of importing random unintelligible registry keys from sites purporting to increase system performance for free. Even if they’re posted on social media, the land of rigorous fact checking and rationality.

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  • SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It mentions & includes a link to the NotebookCheck site as the source. It’s certainly NOT an unreliable site.

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• db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  laughs in Linux

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  • spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It certainly is, and when it breaks because it can’t handle some obscure use case, I won’t bat an eye

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• CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Install random shit for the promise of .0001ms seek? Jesus Christ guys 🤦‍♂️.

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  • themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am definitely not installing this, but I thought it was an interesting article.

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  • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    jokes on you, that measurement became slower with the new driver. but if you look at the other measurements…

    why is it that any of your comments are easily downvote worthy? always misleading and/or incorrect.

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    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Issa exaggeration you nerd. 

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just like Linux 20 years ago.

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    • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, but all the Gentoo flags working together would add up to 0.004ms!

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Interesting. I presume that over time, MS plans to tweak the driver, increasing safety and security, and then start transitioning known safe devices over. Seems surprisingly responsible.

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  • Poach@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Only like 10 years late

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    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s 2026 (basically) and Linux still has major GPU stability issues and doesn’t support HDR or vrr over HDMI units using a valve deck image. 

      Glass houses my man.

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• SavageCoconut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Here’s a reply from an ―allegedly― ex-employee at Msft you can find in the comment section of the article:

  There is a lot of confusion on this thread between NVMe Storage Controller drivers and Disk drivers, e.g. “we have always been able to replace NVMe drivers”. Previous driver releases, e.g. by Samsung, are for the NVMe Storage Controller, which you don’t see in Device Manager unless you view by connection. The inbox driver is “Standard NVM Express Controller” or stornvme.sys. Samsung’s driver was secnvme.sys.

  The title of this TPU story is misleading; there is no new NVMe (controller) driver, there is a new disk layer driver nvmedisk.sys that is just an optimization of disk.sys that provides marginally better performance for NVMe drives (some SCSI command translations removed; multiple queues supported; presumably latency optimization and cache flush behavior). This is not really an “NVMe driver” because it’s not the controller driver. The disk layer driver is not super specific to a particular storage medium; this is just optimization to pair better with stornvme. It’s possible that you could force install nvmedisk.sys on HDD and it may even work, albeit unreliably and/or slowly.

  Source: I worked at MS for decades. You know that checkbox in Device Manager for drives that says “Turn off Windows write-cache buffer flushing on the device”? That was me.

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• ascendings@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is actually kinda cool! Hopefully it eventually becomes a "default" of some sort or at least has an easy toggle in compatible configs.

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