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Framework stops selling separate DDR5 RAM modules to fight scalpers

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨tal@lemmy.today⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2988171/framework-stops-selling-separate-ddr5-ram-modules-to-fight-scalpers.html

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I remember when it wasn’t uncommon to buy a prebuilt system and then immediately upgrade its memory with third party DIMMs to avoid paying the PC manufacturer’s premium on memory. Seeing that becoming inverted is a little bonkers.

    I also wonder if it will push the market further towards towards systems with soldered memory or on-core memory.

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    • monkeyman512@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t see how it would push manufacturers to do that. I can see how it would make consumers more open to soldered RAM if RAM is so expensive there is no way you are going to upgrade it later. But, I would be interested to get your thoughts as I miss stuff that feels obvious I’m hindsight all the time.

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      • tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If consumers aren’t going to or are much less likely to upgrade, then that affects demand from them, and one would expect manufacturers to follow what consumers demand.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I remember when OEMs just didn’t rape you on RAM and storage.

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      • pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Except for Alienware

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    • djdarren@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ll never forget buying my first MacBook in ’07 and asking the guy how much it would cost to bump the RAM from 1Gb to 2Gb. He told me in no uncertain terms that I’d be better off looking online for a cheaper price.

      Well, in the intervening years they certainly have closed that loophole.

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      • wavebeam@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I worked at a knock-off Apple Store in the PNW from 2009 to 2013 and I told this same line to MANY people. The thing about being an “Apple Specialist” is that we sold more than Apple did, including “aftermarket” RAM modules to do that upgrade on-site for customers, saving those customer money AND netting us more profit than if we had sold them the Apple SKU with more RAM. When Apple closed this loophole it was not just at the expense of end-users, but their channel partners too.

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Framework desktop already has soldered ram. That’s because AMD only sells that CPU like that.

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    • istdaslol@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s kinda crazy. Got myself a new thinkpad and the 2nd 32GB stick would cost another 150 bucks. Didn’t knew that retail they are now at above 200 xD

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    • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah I miss the days of buying a mid spec MacBook and then immediately doubling or quadrupling the ram with Corsair or similar 3rd party ram.

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  • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Framework still have their “big tent” Nazi problem?

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    • tehmics@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Their what now

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      • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They want everyone to buy their products, and have no problem with those who want us all dead

        https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986

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    • voicesarefree@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I missed all of this, but mostly caught up now. Hopefully Feamework starts making some better decisions on who they align with.

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    • Qwel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They made a blog post “for transparency” that listed all the projects they supported, and called for the community to submit their favorite projects in a form.

      The blog post did not acknowledge the situation, but the list showed that they stopped supporting Omarchy and kept support for Hyprland. It was noted during the drama that Hyprland’s toxicity levels have dropped since they set up a moderation team. Their reputation might not represent them as they are currently.

      I stopped following the events at this point, so if something happened after that, I’m not aware of it

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  • SystemL@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Scalpers ruin everything…

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    • raman_klogius@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Scalpers should live up to their name and be scalped

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That would be scalpees.

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  • Dirk@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Someone else will continue selling RAM and making money.

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  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The big tent has room for nazis and bigots, but scalpers is where they draw the line?

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    • helix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Could you please elaborate or link to further information?

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      • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Framework has been financially supporting far-right neo-nazi developers. When they were asked for an explanation by the community they didn’t say “we condemn hate and will look into that” — instead this is what they said.

        We deliberately create a big tent, because we want open source software to win. We don’t partner based on individuals’ or organizations’ beliefs, values, or political stances outside of their alignment with us on increasing the adoption of open source software.

        community.frame.work/t/…/75986

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