The author’s guild can go fuck itself.
This is why I hate paying these people. They will always try to use that money against us to get even more money.
It’s just business for them, so it should just be business for us.
Authors Guild Asks Supreme Court to Hold Internet Providers Accountable for Copyright Theft
Submitted 3 days ago by General_Effort@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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theoneandonlyeggboi@lemmings.world 4 hours ago
CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
This is equivalent to asking the road construction workers and engineers to be held accountable for those that break the speed limit
meathappening@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
That’s not totally accurate since ISPs have traffic logs and are assigning IP addresses to pirates. I’d say it’s closer to holding Hertz accountable when people who rented cars break the speed limit.
But I’m concerned how they can request this with a straight face, since we’ve seen wholesale abuse of the DMCA since its inception. Ask anybody who has a YouTube channel with more than 5k subscribers about the false reports they’ve received from companies claiming to own someone else’s music. People are going to have their access cut off based on fake reports.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
ISPs route data packets between IP addresses; they don’t get to see the content of what I send/receive (it’s encrypted), and they don’t get domain info without deep packet inspection, because I don’t use their DNS servers.
It’s more like sometimes the city will put up speed cameras and ALPRs — but does that make them responsible for speeders?
You have a point about the DMCA though; I’ve had videos monetized by a third party because of music I wrote and performed myself — turned out, the company was stealing MY music and I got dinged for it.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
I mean… why do you think new speed bumps and traffic signals get added to neighborhoods? Same with adjusted speed limits.
That IS the engineers (well, the local government that employs them) being held accountable for dangerous roads.
For this? I have very serious concerns for all the obvious reasons. But ISPs 100% know what we are doing. Like… there is a reason that comcast et al basically have like a 1 gig upload on a 100 gig down connection. Same with bandwidth caps… which “worked” up until everyone was teleconferencing from home and watching 4k netflix.
And… considering comcast et al love to sell bundles for “unlimited bandwidth” or “symmetrical upload”… they are very much profiting off of piracy.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
there is a reason that comcast et al basically have like a 1 gig upload on a 100 gig down connection.
Because they’re limited on channels and allocate more of them for increased download speed because most people upload very little data comparatively.
The bandwidth cap is just a pure money grab as they removed the caps during covid when everyone was video calling and sitting around online at home and ‘somehow’ their network handled it just fine.
None of this has anything to do with piracy.
Manjushri@piefed.social 2 days ago
The local government is not banning repeat speeders from using the roads though. The courts might do that by revoking driver’s licenses, but the engineers and local governments do not have the authority, and should not have the authority to do so.
In the same way, internet providers should not be the one’s who decide that a given user should not have access. That should remain the decision of the courts. If a copyright holder can show the courts that a user should be denied access to the internet, the courts can order the individual cut off. That’s where the power should remain.
captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 3 days ago
Sounds like the authors guild needs to read a book about how the Internet works
reddit_sux@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sue the air while you are at it for carrying the electromagnetic waves of bits of internet.
frongt@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
This is fair. When they are committing a crime, they should be held accountable.
But they are not, they are common carriers, in the same way FedEx is not responsible for shipping a package that is secretly a pipe bomb.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Still waiting for the day someone can actually steal something via the internet. Making copies is not theft
semperverus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I mean you can drain someone else’s bank account via the internet.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Could I have a copy of your birth certificate and passport?
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I cannot magically clone physical objects, nor send them over the internet
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
They shouldn’t know what their users are doing, they are providers not monitors, so how can they be accountable?
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Copyright maximalists pretty consistently are glad to pirate stuff that isn’t theirs when it is suddenly expedient to do so.
As with when the studios and labels push for legal anti-piracy measures, I call shenanigans.
This is not our first rodeo: when a ten-year-old girl downloads the latest release in her favorite literary series because she’s too poor, and we no longer support our libraries to have current selections, no-one is going to want to prosecute the little girl who wants to read.
Well, maybe some billionaires might, but the media would have a field day with it.
Linearity@piefed.zip 3 days ago
We can always torrent on I2P if push comes to shove guys
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The server should not be responsible for the food they bring to the customer.
PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
I don’t believe in imaginary property.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Come back once you have dealt with the thieving AI companies.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Aaron Swartz killed himself because he was facing prison time for “theft”, but mark fuckerberg and his cronies can use millions of books and get caught and face NO repercussions. Fuck this shit.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Bit of a stretch the way this is angled…
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That string of 1’s and 0’s is mine!!!
General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Interesting to see the reactions here; how they differ from other lawsuits that pit “authors” and “artists” against tech companies.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 days ago
This isn’t authors/artists vs tech companies, this is rights holders vs consumers. Rights holders are trying to be able to pressure ISPs to be able to punish consumers for alleged infringements.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Nice try. But this is explicitly the “Authors’ Guild” and others.
phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Huh, it’s almost like each issue has nuance.
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 hour ago
Soon they will all be lobbying for digital ID and mandatory identity verification every single time you connect to the internet because they don’t want to be held liable for what you choose to do on it.
Just another erosion of rights for the American people. No surprise there.