Oracle makes the worst database system ever imagined by anyone ever. Can’t even insert multiple rows in the same statement, you have to put multiple insert statements and Oracle sues you for dreaming about any other database.
What does Oracle actually do? | Good Work [11:47]
Submitted 3 weeks ago by ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net to technology@lemmy.world
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potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br 3 weeks ago
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Techs like to deride sales and managers for incompetence. But Oracle is proof that salesmanship and suits can take garbage and make billions.
I remember the around 1990 when Oracle handled their tech problems by making it illegal to review their product. ( You had to purchase their product to use it or be sued. And the purchase agreement required that you not publish a review of the product without their approval.)
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I would argue that selling a product that engineers need to create and maintain at great cost to the company (both monetary and in terms of frustration etc) and customer relations is in fact incompetence.
or at least that’s how I see if from my own dealings with the sales guy at work. “okay yes I see you have an idea, but can we nail down a product definition, describe where we add value, and identify how it is different than these two other globally established products on the market right now?” nope, all he could do was be a little bitch about it. apparently he had customers lined up, though.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
and Oracle sues you for dreaming about any other database.
What’s this?
potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br 3 weeks ago
Oracle sues for everything, when they sue you, they can ask for their payment to be related to the total employees of the company, to take that as users of the Oracle Database (trademark)(copyright)(shat my pants) or Java (do I need to repeat?). Yeah, they sue for EVERYTHING.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yeah, pretty sure you can do multi row insert though
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
This is one of the issues with the tech side of their business. They’ve been around a long time, and certain features that other databases had in the 90s were just put into Oracle a few years back. Devs don’t always have a good handle on the new capabilities, especially when the old code without the feature is done and working.
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I cannot imagine any business leader crunching the numbers and concluding it’s better to stay with Oracle. I would order an all-hands-on-deck effort to rejigger the company database needs to get out from under these parasites.
Only explanation I got it that they are unwilling to stall current projects and/or hire more backend devs while sorting it out. And yes, I am well aware it’s a monstrous task, even for a small company.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s cheaper in the long run, which is probably about 5 years, maybe less. Those fees are astronomical.
In fact, I’d be willing to donate some time to help a small business transition to Postgres.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 weeks ago
A friend of mine was working on decommissioning Oracle at his company for the past year or two. The company bought some software that was using Oracle years ago. Turns out it was relying heavily on DB procedures and to ditch Oracle they had to move all this logic out of it first. They tried to do it couple of times before but failed. The software works so this work had low priority and would be scraped eventually to focus on more important things. On like a 3rd try they finally managed to do it and are now Oracle free.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Sadly I’m in this boat. We use Oracle database and have stored procedures all over the place. For us, the cost to convert everything would probably be huge.
I’d love to switch to PostgreSQL.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
Much like Vampires, no sane person should ever invite Oracle into their home: Both are bloodsucking parasitical leeches, and you’ll never be rid of the affliction.
markz@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
Good Work
Not really
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
It’s the name of the channel, not a description of what Oracle does.
markz@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
The juxtaposition was just too good to not make the comment.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s like the song Well Done by IDLES, more sarcasm than anything
melfie@lemy.lol 3 weeks ago
Larry Ellison, the largest private funder of the Israel Defense Forces, is deeply tied to the Israeli national security state and counts Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among his closest friends.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
He also vets republican presidential candidates for Israel. That’s the country where his loyalties lie, not the US.
G0rb@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Sounds Mike Ransomware
firewyre@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
FUCK ORACLE
verdi@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Oracle is a CIA asset.
melfie@lemy.lol 3 weeks ago
This is also mentioned in the article I posted elsewhere in the thread:
Oracle started as a project for the Central Intelligence Agency. Indeed, it is named after Project Oracle, a 1970s CIA operation on which Ellison worked
tyranical_typhon@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
Big businesses are all in cahoots with each other.
Everything is so expensive so they can spend that money on each other.
Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
My job only exists because it was cheaper to hire several thousand tech workers to replace all the oracle products in house over several years than to keep using Oracle lmao
sirico@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Like backend Nintendo no it’s not at fun as it sounds
yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
That reporter is distractingly handsome
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Oracle makes money. They don’t care how.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
One
Rich
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Ding ding!