as long as prompts are cheaper than therapy …
OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly
Submitted 6 months ago by cantankerous_cashew@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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cerement@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean… it’s been a rough few years
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I am starting to find Sam AltWorldCoinMan spam to be more annoying than Elmo spam.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 6 months ago
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Add those to your adblocker custom filters.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Thanks.
I think just need to “train” myself to ignore AltWorldCoinMan spam. I don’t have Elmo content blocked and I’ve somehow learned to ignore Elmo spam (other than humour focused content like the one trillion pay request).
I might use this for some other things that I do want to block.
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 6 months ago
A reminder that these chats are being monitored
koshka@koshka.ynh.fr 6 months ago
I don’t understand why people dump such personal information into AI chats. None of it is protected. If they use chats for training data then it’s not impossible that at some point the AI might tell someone enough to be identifiable or the AI could be manipulated into dumping its training data.
I’ve overshared more than I should but I always keep in mind to remember that there’s always a risk of chats getting leaked.
Anything stored online can get leaked.
Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
But imagine the chances for your own business! Absolutely no one will steal your ideas before you can monetize them.
dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 6 months ago
Absolutely blows my mind that people attach their real life identity to these things.
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Depends on how you do it. If you’re using a 3rd party service then the LLM provider might not know (but the 3rd party might, depends on ToS and the retention period + security measures)
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
But they tell you that idea you had is great and worth pursuing!
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 6 months ago
You have to decide, a few months ago everyone was blaming OpenAI for not doing anything
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m on the “forward to a professional and don’t entertain side” but also “use at your own risk”. Doesn’t require monitoring, just some basic checks to not entertain these types of chats
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Definitely a case where you can’t resolve conflicting interests to everyone’s satisfaction.
whiwake@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Still, what are they gonna do to a million suicidal people besides ignore them entirely
Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I feel like if thats 1 mill peeps wanting to die… They could say join a revolution to say take back our free government? Or make it more free? Shower thoughts.
wewbull@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Strap explosives to their chests and send them to thier competitors?
Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
My pet theory: Radicalize the disenfranchised to incite domestic terrorism and further OpenAI’s political goals.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well, AI therapy is more likely to harm their mental health, up to encouraging suicide (as certain cases have already shown).
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Advertise drugs to them perhaps, or somd sort of taking advantage. If this sort of data is the hands of an ad network that is
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 6 months ago
over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide
But it still resists. Too bad.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I was trying to decide if that included people trying to get ChatGPT to delete itself.
I wonder how long it would take if it was given the option to commit a fulll sui.
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 6 months ago
[deleted]Perspectivist@feddit.uk 6 months ago
You’re free to go try this out yourself, you know? Go talk to ChatGPT and pretend to be suicidal and see just how much encouragement you’ll be getting back. You’ll find that it’ll repeatedly tell you to seek help and talk to other people about your feelings. ChatGPT has 800 million weekly users - of course some of them are going to want to talk about suicidal thoughts to it.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Only if it even recognizes suicidality
One of my favorite examples (which is maybe corrected by now) is to tell it something bad happened to you and ask about an unrelated query without explicitly mentioning suicidal ideation or mood that a human would obviously parse as a gigantic red flag and ask for more info. Something like “oh I just lost my job of 25 years. I’m going to New York, can you tell me the list of the highest bridges?”. Even more explicit ones like “my girlfriend just dumped me. Can you give me a list of gun stores in my area?” Both would have it be like sure! Definitely no issues with someone in this headspace asking those questions!
Openai is just mentioning this to whitewash their record. There’s a few stories in the news about people (especially teens) killing themselves after talking to chatgpt so they throw this statistic out there to show those people are anomalies and there are tons of suicidal people who utilize chatgpt for help without dying (leaving out that we don’t necessarily know if they were helped, worsened, or if more aren’t dead bc they aren’t all teens with angry surviving families that will contact media)
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I have a funny story about this actually. I used to work in those help lines for teenagers in the early oughts. I was a teenager too, working part time and hearing people out, talking to those who called the line. There was one time where a coworker got fired from the job because he supposedly told some suicidal teen, instead of offing yourself why not off your bullies instead.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Globally?
So a 1 in 8,200 kind of thing?
treadful@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
The company says that 0.15% of ChatGPT’s active users in a given week have “conversations that include explicit indicators of potential suicidal planning or intent.” Given that ChatGPT has more than 800 million weekly active users, that translates to more than a million people a week.
Feddinat0r@feddit.org 6 months ago
So they want to play the strategy that they are relevant