OpenAI: “Chrome is a monopoly!” Also OpenAI: releases a spyware browser based on Chromium
ChatGPT's new browser has potential, if you're willing to pay
Submitted 3 weeks ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20pdy1exxvo
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danielton1@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Naich@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
One of the examples of its brilliance is how he found a site he visited yesterday by typing in a question for the AI rather than pressing CTRL-H. I guess it is designed for people who type “Google” into the search bar of their browser and then double click on the link.
0ndead@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Fuck all the way off
verdi@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
This reads like an advertorial…
kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
The web is designed for humans to use, so if Atlas can monitor us - how we book train tickets for example - it can learn how to better navigate these kinds of processes.
That is called malware. Or at the very least, Open AI should be paying the users for basically getting their browsing data for free, not other way around.
Second, I object to it being called a Google killer in the article. It is based on Chromium whose future is basically in Google’s hands right now for all Intents and purposes. The days of multiple Web browsers are gone. We have the same thing in new clothing. Opera ditched it’s rendering engine for Chromium, MS ditched Trident for Chromium.
Currently, there are basically only three real browser engines : Chromium, Gecko which powers Firefox Derivatives and Safari(Blinkit? I am not sure of its exact name). Even if Open AI’s new browser (or Perplexity 's for that matter) takes market by storm, they will remain dependent on Google because the underlying code is. They can’t be truly independent unless they have their separate engine. And if the new Ladybird project shows one thing, it is that shipping a new browser might be easy, but a new rendering engine is very tough.
flemtone@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hell no!
fubarx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The browser is one of the few places users interact with the internet. To train models, you need data and here you are getting a firehose of data including destinations, clicks, messages, everything. You can’t really get that from a browser extension because it’s not always running for every window and tab.
The only stream missing are user interactions via apps. They already offer SDKs for embedding inside apps, but they need to sweeten the deal to encourage adoption. That will come through offering ad embedding services or revenue-sharing with devs.
If they truly wanted to get every interaction, they could offer discount ‘smart’ WiFi routers, and either cut deals with telcos or create MVNOs to have visibility into those data streams as well.
It’s not Man-In-The-Middle if you invite them in. 🤷🏻♂️
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Here’s the thing: I’m not willing to pay for AI. I liked Siri when its “cookie monster” joke about dividing zero by zero wasn’t considered offensive and before it had to Google everything or ask ChatGPT for everything. Now I just don’t care about it at all. And that’s Siri — I’m intentionally on the platform with the crappiest, deadest, most useless AI because I really don’t want AI in my life. And it’s great.
As long as I can use Firefox on the Mac and not worry about AI — Firefox did add some chatbot thing, but it was very easy to disable — I’m just going to keep doing that.
My only worry will be, at some point, the Net might get to where you need AI. Hopefully by then they will have figured out a way to make it free. I hope I can just ride that wave. If not, who knows. I worry for younger users, though many of them seem to be embracing the changes, kind of like how we embraced Web 2.0 before social media went to shit (and that was before fascists started taking over/spinning up their own).
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Net might get to where you need AI
I hate to say it, but we’re basically there, and AI doesn’t help a ton. If the net is trash, there’s not a lot it can do.
Hopefully by then they will have figured out a way to make it free.
Self hosted is 100% taking off. Getting a local agent to sift through the net’s sludge will be about as easy as tweaking Firefox before long.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Local is also slower and… less robust in capability. But it’s getting there. I run local AI and I’m really impressed with gains in both. It’s just still a big gap.
We’re headed in a good direction here, but I’m afraid local may be gated by ability to afford expensive hardware.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Why is ChatGPT and proplexity now jumping into the browser bandwagon.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Gotta keep the investor money flowing.
“Trust me bro, I know x didn’t work but y will, give me a few more billions bro, AI will make us rich bro”
Marthirial@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because there are morons out there who haven’t figured out OpenAI would do or say anything to keep the scam going.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t know why this article is getting downvoted, it’s a solid article that feels relatively balanced.
I say this as someone who doesn’t trust AI conmen (while recognizing the enormous potential of LLMs and ML systems such AI upscaling of older SD/VHS videos), especially American AI conmen.
frongt@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Because AI conmen do not deserve air time.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Anything even tangentially AI gets mass downvotes on Lemmy.
Don’t get me wrong, Sam Altman is an even bigger con artist than Musk. But outside the self hosting niches, Lemmy skews towards the opposite extreme of ‘tech bro’
rayoflight@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 3 weeks ago
Openai needed data on how people interact with websites so they could train an ai to interact with websites and replace you at ur job. Now a whole bunch of people will be helping to train an ai at replacing themselves. Genius, evil, but fucking genius
Jaximus@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Are you talking about chrome?