Submitted 1 year ago by walnutwalrus@lemmy.world to general@lemmy.world
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/push-4-day-work-week-picks-steam-critics
I’m doing a real four day workweek since the beginning of this year and I’m never going back. And by “real” I mean 4x8 hours.
There are so many companies out there trying to push 4x10 as a benefit. Dude…that’s just the same amount of work in one day less. I want to get more work life balance, not burn myself out faster than before.
A lot of old farts telling people like me we are too lazy and need to work harder. Their rage is my fuel.
Since productivity is similar over 5x8 and 4x8 surely 4x10 just means more hours of mouse wiggling right?
Work From Home was a big cultural change for the country, and we all see how that went (even after initially lauding it). I’m not holding my breath on this. Anything that reduces stress on the employees would never get commonplace, because stress is how they keep the workers in check.
and we all see how that went
How did it go?
Every single company now wants everybody to come back to office, even those who worked remote before Covid. Even zoom, whose very business is keeping people at home is making their employees return to office.
why did you post an article from a propaganda site
By the time they implement a 4-day work week it will feel like we need to do a 3-day work week. We’ve been stuck in a 5-day cycle for generations now and trying to break those chains is going to take a monumental push.
Honestly, none of it even matters. The whole thing is a gigantic social construct. We could work 1 day a week and it wouldn’t matter except to rich people.
4-10s is common in heavy industry. Same number of hours, but you get a lot more weekend and weekends with stats are even better.
I've worked such a work week, and would heartily endorse it.
Idk why someone always brings up 4-10s every time, it’s a completely different thing. We want 8 hour days, 4 days a week.
Because it's a thing that actually exists, doesn't result in a pay or benefits cut, and people who experienced it actually like.
As someone working in IT, this sounds horrible for productivity. I can barely remain productive for a full eight hours, longer days would exacerbate the problem.
Probably better to have 5-6 for me. Almost the same as 4-8 but you cut only the least productive hours so it’s more efficient.
Tbh having a set amount of work hours across jobs comes across as unwise. Each job is going to have different sorts of demands and the length of work sessions & number of breaks should be adjusted accordingly for each.
For some jobs a longer work session with sufficient breaks may prove better, whereas other jobs, absolutely not, it becomes performative rather than productive.
Agree. 8 hours is a struggle. You get 5 hours of serious focused attention from me…then I lose steam and half heartedly answer questions and fight to keep my eyes open and focused or zone out in a meeting. But the 5 hours I do is laps around my coworkers and solid friggin work. Also to note I work remote and it’s the only reason my 5 hours is so fruitful.
10 hours would be a nightmare.
That’s why it’s perfect. Just screw around for the extra hours and you get another day that isn’t tainted with work stank. Just having work that day ruins the day for me. 4x8 is ideal, but I’d settle for 4x10.
I don’t even work for someone and I fully support this. 5 day work week is an artifact of a different time.
Life isn’t about working.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The article is dated back in February.
Regardless, we should really use the correct phrasing here. We’re pushing for a 32 hour workweek standard. Calling it 4 day is stupid because everyone just says four 10hr days.
scoutFDT@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I always see this, a 4 day week being equated to 4 - 10 and it always leaves me baffled that people think we have to work 40 hours. No we fucking don’t. 40 hour work week was implemented when automation was but a fraction of what it is today. Heck one can even argue that we can half the working hours to 20 and still be fine.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yep, agreed 100%. 32hr workweek should just be a first step or transition to 24, then even less. Automation, AI, and everything should benefit all of us not just the billionaires.
Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I guess the argument is that you could even have it without changing the amount of hours.
sverit@feddit.de 1 year ago
And it’s foxnews :/
WookieMunster@kbin.social 1 year ago
For a 32 hour work week to be viable we would need the pay to match a 40 hour work week at least. I doubt we will get both if one even
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree with you 100% on both
TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I already work 4 10s. Factory work is what it is. Sometimes we get forced for Fridays too. Hell, overtime is the only way to make any real money. I don’t have a point, just sharing my experience.